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Re-design a site

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chew

7:00 am on Jun 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I was wondering how often a technology-based small business site should be re-designed?

It's been one year, and now i'm wiping off the old site design to start over fresh. The logo, navigation and body text will stay in the same areas but all of the graphics will be made over with a completely different visual concept.

I guess I just wanted some reassurance that one year is a reasonable amount of time to wait before doing a re-design...

How often do you folks all re-design a client's site or your own site?

papabaer

7:30 am on Jun 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello Chew,
Welcome to Webmaster World!

I would say the answer would be based on a number of factors, the most important of which is, "How well has your current design performed?"


  • Has there been a substantial amount of critical (negative) feedback on the site?
  • Has traffic and desired visitor interaction dropped, stayed level or increased?
  • Are there significant new features you wish to incoporate that necessitate a re-design?
  • How will a new design affect usability?
  • What are the potential benefits?

These are just a few of the questions that should be considered before embarking on a major redesign. If your site has a substantial amount of repeat visitors you also need to consider how they may react.

Some designs will (almost) never need a major redesign. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." There is a great deal of truth in that old saying, but that does not mean you cannot "tweak a little here" and "refine a little there..."

[edited by: papabaer at 7:36 am (utc) on June 16, 2002]

dcheney

7:32 am on Jun 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I constantly "tweak" my design. Probably average one small adjustment a week. (Usually either in response to a user or simply things I don't like from my own use of a local copy of the site.)

I try to avoid changing structural elements as much as possible (i.e. directory names, file name for a page on a given topic) so as to not break external links (like SE's!)

Also when I do make structural changes I tend to watch the logs closely for a few weeks and add redirects for the pages that are most often requested but now in a new location.

fathom

7:41 am on Jun 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Tracking users profiles will also help a great deal to appreciate when you need a complete overhaul.

Color depth, screen resolution, scripts inabled and browser version are some of the main ones.

tedster

8:51 am on Jun 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if the idea of "regular re-design" was started by designers. I doubt that it was instigated by marketers.

In direct marketing, materials that are performing are not replaced unless new materials have been tested and shown to improve on a control measure. I think that's a good way to go with a website as well, however you want to try the test.

Otherwise, the urge to "look fresh" may hurt rather than help. Even if pages are 5 years old, if they are producing good numbers, I wouldn't replace them without a very compelling reason. It's too much like roulette.

Remember "new" Coke?

Eric_Jarvis

4:06 pm on Jun 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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by and large I redesign when the html spec changes sufficiently to make it seem important, or when an unexpected technological advance happens

the site I look after currently just had a year long rebuild to deal with some potential "emergencies"...it is going to spend the next 24 months having another complete make over going right down to a basic site architecture level

my first pro client just asked about yet another redesign this weekend...they are an arts organisation and feel the site gets stale if it doesn't get a major change in look every 6-12 months...this time I hope I can persuade them to let me shift all the presentation over to css...that way they can change the colour scheme every week if they so wish

it's horses for courses and largely an ongoing process anyway

pleeker

12:57 am on Jun 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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In direct marketing, materials that are performing are not replaced unless new materials have been tested and shown to improve on a control measure. I think that's a good way to go with a website as well, however you want to try the test.

However, in retail, "floor resets" are done on a regular basis whether products are selling well or not. Retail marketers have studies as evidence that show one way to keep customers' interest in coming in to your store is to make sure the store looks new / fresh / updated on a regular basis.

I think the same thing applies, to a degree, to web sites. Even the most successful web sites could use a freshening-up on a regular basis. Otherwise you risk the appearance of being stale, of looking like your site hasn't changed, like you have nothing new to offer, like you haven't progressed, etc.

Of course, new content can solve some of these concerns. But in retail, adding in a new line of denim jeans isn't good enough to make them sell -- you've got to rearrange things every now and then to bring back some of the excitement of just being in the store. I think the analogy can be applied to a degree with business web sites.

How often is too often? We recommend that our most successful clients, the ones with popular and well-trafficked sites, consider a redesign (not necessarily an entirely new look, mind you) every 8-15 months. Those with less popular sites can afford to go a bit longer, maybe 15-24 months. But your mileage may vary.

2_much

1:10 am on Jun 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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chew, I've noticed something for ALL of my sites. Whenever I change the design, orders seem to improve. When it's a total re-design, if it's a better design, it performs SO MUCH better. Sometimes the design doesn't work as well as the previous, and that can break a site.

dcheney

1:23 am on Jun 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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However, in retail, "floor resets" are done on a regular basis whether products are selling well or not. Retail marketers have studies as evidence that show one way to keep customers' interest in coming in to your store is to make sure the store looks new / fresh / updated on a regular basis.

Personally I hate when retailers do that. I want to be able to walk in the door, get what I want, pay, and get out. And I want to do all that as fast as possible. (Yep, retailers hate shoppers like me!)

pleeker

1:33 am on Jun 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Personally I hate when retailers do that. I want to be able to walk in the door, get what I want, pay, and get out. And I want to do all that as fast as possible. (Yep, retailers hate shoppers like me!)

Yeah, bothers me, too. Then again, I'm a guy and I'm not the target customer for most of those stores!

mahlon

1:39 am on Jun 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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We are in the process of re-designing our site after 2 years. It is a very large online store and I'm sure that people are used to the site. However navigation could be better and the graphics are showing there age. As the new site is finished we will warn shoppers of the new site to be and also give them a sneek-peek at the site and give them a chance to use it before it completely replaces the existing site.
Sites do age and in the case of an online store it is important to keep with the times. And as mentioned, sales floors do change around quite often to keep shoppers looking and to keep things fresh. I have heard of doing re-designs every 2 years or at least freshening them up a bit. Hope this helps.

brotherhood of LAN

1:39 am on Jun 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I am constantly re-writing over things, usually if it involves less code or less re-writing in future.

Getting into CSS and dynamic stuff has been the prime reason. The idea of updating sites from a back end appeals to me, where "small tweaks" are usually site-wide changes for the better.

I like the idea of a "build", where you put all of your intended improvements on to the site in one go. But somehow I always find the time to tweak here and there in between and see if that tweak has any effect :)

fathom

3:19 am on Jun 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Agree totally BOL, I generally prefer, if large adjutments are needed to scale over many month (update) so that there is some guage to measure the effectiveness of a change.