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NS7 has favicons!

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Nick_W

8:09 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey,
just noticed that NS7 is picking up favicon.ico's (at least in the address bar)

er.... that is new isn't it?

Google has a really neat 'G' of course!

Nick

mack

9:00 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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well spoted. Is it just me or are favicons not as popular as they used to be.

They are easy to impliment..why arent more sites using them???

mcguffin

9:05 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think it's because they tend to have a short shelf life and can disappear quite easily from a user's bookmarks. Poof! :)

Nick_W

9:06 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Nah, it's just one of those things that you don't get round to. I haven't done one for my new biz site yet.

er... no time like the present I guess, I'm off to try the K icon maker!

Nick

mivox

9:09 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think a lot of people see them attached to Yahoo! and Google and other "big" websites, and they just never realized how easy they are for a little site to create.

You see those surveys supposedly showing that many novice internet surfers assume search engine results are paid for just like yellow pages ads... perhaps some webmasters think favicons are some kind of "special dispensation" IE/MS gives you in exchange for $$$, or just because you are a "big fish"?

EliteWeb

9:10 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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oOO ya i noticed it too, showed up my favicon for my site where IE couldnt do it. heheh I have to figure out that prob still.

Axacta

9:33 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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As I understand it, if your site is saved on your computer your icons tend to be unstable (I know mine never last).

A side benefit is that you can track when most people bookmark your site. Apparently this is not always reliable either, but is more so if you include the favicon.ico file in each directory instead of just directing to one in the root.

Nick_W

9:34 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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They're a bit fiddly, I've just managed to create a red triangle (site in profile) but it looks a littl lame next to webmasterworlds!

How are you supposed to do stuff with only 16px to play with?

Nick

mbauser2

11:10 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Mozilla has supported favicons for awhile now, but a little differently than Internet Explorer does. Mozilla doesn't use the icon in the Bookmark's menu or request it when bookmarking a page. Instead, it requests the icon (and displays it in the address bar and page tab) whenver it sees rel="shortcut icon" or rel="icon" in a LINK element.

If you've been using rel="shortcut icon" on any pages, go backtrack through your server logs. You might find some requests from Mozilla that you didn't notice before.

mivox

11:56 pm on May 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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How are you supposed to do stuff with only 16px to play with?

Carefully, and with a lot of fiddling around like, "Hmm, should the second pixel from the left in the thrid down from the top row be light blue, white, or yellow?" So you change it back and forth between the three colors, zooming in and out of the view in your icon editor about 100 times before you make up your mind.

At least that's how I do it...

Macguru

12:00 am on May 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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BTW did you know we had a favicon queen around?

tedster

12:06 am on May 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If you've got an editor that can create multi-resolution icons, you could also consider including an icon for 32x32 as well as 16x16...multi-resolution is the standard for Windows icons.

I don't know how often people drag a Favorite to somewhere on their desktop, but having a large and small version of the favicon is the most professional appearing thing you can do, just in case.

Dpeper

12:39 am on May 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

I was wondering if any one has some more information on creating these a good editor? Pre-made ones? I'd like to do it on my site but i need some more info first.

Donny

PS. I need the code to insert it.

mediaspinner

1:13 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)



I have used a favicon.ico for a while.. it worked fine for about a week... and while it's still in root, I can't get it to appear anymore unless I delete cache and history, delete the bookmark for it, and load from scratch... it then disappears in a week or so again (IE6).

Wish it had more staying power.

pat_s

6:14 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I love them in Mozilla. Netscape 7's the same I guess. They show up in the address bar, or on the tab if you're using tabbed browsing and have the focus on a different page. If a few more people start using Mozilla and Netscape 7 I just might try to create a few. They don't seem to stay in IE long enough to bother for that.