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How do you spell website

I know this is a really dumb question,,,but...

         

Newnewbie

1:46 pm on May 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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How do you spell website?

Is it:

1) website
2) web site
3) Web site

And when do you capitalize web? I thought it was just when you were referring to "the Web".

tedster

7:24 pm on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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> have you noticed any sort of "frameshifts" with words?

One shift that computer technology brought to English was "CamelCase". It's no longer tecnically necessary since you now can use spaces in file names, but it's here to stay - adopted by the marketing industry with a fervor.

bruhaha

8:30 pm on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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pcguru333 wrote:
When the U.S. was in the process of becoming independent many English spellings were changed purposefully to distinguish the Yanks from the Brits.
i.e. colour changed to color, etc.

It didn't quite happen like that. This spelling change--and many like it (e.g., catalog, program)-- was suggested by Noah Webster, an advocate of spelling reform to make spelling better reflect phonetic reality. (He published this spelling in his dictionary, in 1828, some time after the U.S. gained its independence. I'm not sure how long after that his spellings gained general acceptance.)

It is also worthwhile to recall that the sort of "standardized" spelling of English we know today did not exist at the time of the American Revolution.

pcguru333

9:01 pm on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Noah Webster spent his own money to pay for the publication of an American speller. He claimed that he would teach the country a uniform system of pronunciation that would unify the new nation.

The book, A Grammatical Institute of the English Language, was printed in 1783. It was often referred to as the 'Blue Speller' It was used heavily by the colonies to teach all ages of school students.

Webster made later editions of the Speller and eventually created his dictionary in 1828

(edited by: pcguru333 at 9:04 pm (utc) on May 17, 2002)

monolift

9:03 pm on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I live and work in Canada now, but I grew up in the US. It's a strange linguistic experience up here because Canada has a strong tie to Britain but is also hugely influenced by the US.

I find that when I do something for local print, I spell words the Canadian way (colour etc.) and when I put something on the Web, I spell it the American way.

moonbiter

9:12 pm on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>grammar ninnies

Is that the correct term for these people?

<tongue in cheek>

In the small, unrepresentative sample of the population that I call my group of friends, we call such people "word n*zis." This is because the one person we know that does it can be insufferable.

Of course this is an inflammatory phrase, but it makes us feel better.

If this question is ...
... A poll: I use website.
... A matter of cool: yooz WeBsItE dOOd!
... A matter of what's "right": depends on the language, dialect, and judgment of The Man(tm).

</tongue in cheek>

monolift

9:21 pm on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I live and work in Canada now, but I grew up in the US. It's a strange linguistic experience up here because Canada has a strong tie to Britain but is also hugely influenced by the US.

I find that when I do something for local print, I spell words the Canadian way (colour etc.) and when I put something on the Web, I spell it the American way.

yongsi

2:02 am on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)



Speaking about color and colour... I hate it. In Singapore we're supposed to use the British from of English, thus textbooks and stuff use colour. but on the Internet, you see color everywhere too, even in codes. But we aren't allowed to use it in our homework and exams, color is wrong, colour is right, it's so difficult to get words like realize and realise. Thus all the time, I got to stop and think if I'm using the correct "version" of the word. I don't see why they have to impose this so strictly. Ah, I think someone should just get rid of all these different spellings and get us a universally uniformed one. :(

paynt

1:54 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)



Wow, I'm so glad I took the time to read this terrific discussion. This is very interesting reading.

What it now comes down to for me is before I knew how I was comfortable writing certain words and now I'm not ;)

Mark_A

4:25 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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yongsi I think you are being a bit unreasonable ....

Americans quite rightly want to have their own language which is American English.
(color)

Brits want theirs as well which is British English.
(colour)

Germans want their own language which is Deutsch.
(farbe, tinte)

The French, Chinese, Poles, Croats, etc etc ....

So what is the big deal about again?

And paynt just to make you happy with your words again ....

The only point of language written or oral is to communicate...

if your choice of media and the components thereof allow you to achieve communication with your target audience let these grammer bashers get on with their debates and you can get on undaunted with your communcating :-)

Key_Master

5:14 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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"But I reckon I got to light out for the territory ahead of the rest, because Aunt Sally she's going to adopt me and sivilize me, and I can't stand it."

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain

Off topic maybe, but for those that have read this author's works, I think the quote speaks for itself. Was Mark Twain a grammer basher or a grammar hacker?

Communication. Dat's all I gotta say 'bout dat.

brotherhood of LAN

8:59 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>So what is the big deal about again?

The big deal is, if i spell website i might get 10 visits while web site may get a 1000 :)

As for the broader idea of language in general, I think its important to see who is using what language, and how the language and culture (remember the global village thread) is incorporated into SE results :) amongst other things.

I have to admit, running any site that is scientific, you will come across those little letter variations WITHIN these words that could

1. cut you off from a stream of customers due to our use of linear search technology :) oops
2. alienate the unassuming visitor who is unaware of language variations
3. Example : I use UK English, though, the majority may use US English. They may think I can't spell!

Its just broad things to keep in mind. IMHO, its all to easy to think that websites are all about looking aesthetically pleasing, and jam packed full of efficient code

Its all very interesting and relevant to me :) Im seriously considering learning all the UK/US spelling variations, in case of future changes in language :)

uk_dokey

2:59 am on May 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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lol

"My father is a technical writer. He has all the ins on american english grammer"

He would kill you for misspelling grammar

And whats all this American English, its just plain old English. Can you guess I'm from England?

IanTurner

11:52 am on May 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Surely the correct spelling is the one that can deliver you the most visitors, or am I being too cynical!!

backus

11:58 am on May 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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You're being cynical! :)

Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?

korkus2000

12:18 pm on May 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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"He would kill you for misspelling grammar"

You should hear him edit my content:)

How can you mispell cat? There is no Q it cat!

(edited by: korkus2000 at 12:24 pm (utc) on May 24, 2002)

backus

12:22 pm on May 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My dad's a technical writer too. Works for GSK at the moment...

mishgar1

1:25 am on May 26, 2002 (gmt 0)



This converation reminds me of the days when 'postmodern' used to be spelled (spelt?) with a hyphen! :-)
gar

dcheney

4:33 am on May 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Someone earlier in the discussion said:

"Do internets even exist anymore, or is there just the Internet?"

IMO, the Internet does not exist at all. It is purely a concept and as such has no real existence beyond that as a mental construct.

:-)

David

david752

4:27 pm on May 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ah, I think someone should just get rid of all these different spellings and get us a universally uniformed one. --Yongsi

George Bernard Shaw left a sum of money in his will towards a contest that would design a new, phonetic, writing system for English. The system also needed to be easy to read and write.

The winner (I think his name was Read) designed a fascinating and easily-learned writing system that unfortunately never caught on. An example was a letter that looked like the number seven without the European horizontal bar. This letter was to be pronounced "uh", as in "up".

Penguin Books (I think) published one of Shaw's plays (Major Barbara?) in the new orthography, with an included separate summary card.

David

PS - Of all the arguments, I am most swayed by 'Web site' with 'Web' being a proper noun derived from 'World Wide Web'. I am also more impressed by grammar than by grammer.

Parenthetically in this PS, and admittedly not appropriate to this forum, I decry the apparent accelerated worsening in the quality of U.S. education and hope that it does not presage the general downfall of intelligence, creativity, problem solving, science, and other characteristics or results of critical thinking.

I apologize for this mostly irrelevant flaming (where is that fire extinguisher when I need it?). I promise not to continue it.

David

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