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Displaying In-site Pop-ups

         

msgraph

3:27 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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What is the best way to offer a pop-up of an in-site page that offers information on new additions?

The page is rather large and most of the features will be disabled except for the chance to close the page.

Should the pop-up appear about half the size(more or less) of the actual page yet scrollable and resizable?

Should the page pop-up to display as much information as possible without having to resize or scroll yet those options will be enabled.

Please NO comments on how it is not wise to use pop-ups and so forth. I am going to use them no matter what! ;)

rcjordan

4:10 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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As a surfer, I actually like info-pop-ups. CJ and others use them quite well in covering break-out items.

I find the ones that are positioned about 40x, 40y off the upper left to be appealing. I size my own at something like 500x320 and leave them fully-capable as independent browser windows. If the circumstances are right, I'd add the feature that keeps the p-u window always on top.

msgraph

4:28 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>>>quite well in covering break-out items.

Exactly why I like to shove it in their face. I find a lot more people click on the links offered on the pop-up than on some highlighted link pointing to the new additions.

How about setting delays?

Do you find that those work better. Right now I have it set to about 6 seconds in order for them to have a quick glance at the general information on the page. Wondering if it is better to take the delay out, leave it, or increase it some. Not too much to where they follow another link and miss the pop-up.

knighty

4:33 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Why not just have a smaller pop up?

500 px sounds a bit big to me, could'nt you just have and ad type pop which then takes them to page -but now not in a pop up.

Yay i just made Senior Member again!

msgraph

4:46 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>>500 px sounds a bit big to me

Right now I'm throwing up a 450px and it needs to be that way so there isn't much scrolling.

>>>could'nt you just have and ad type pop which then takes them to page -but now not in a pop up.

That would be no different than my previous highlighted link that drew very few clicks. I find more clicks by just tossing up the page itself. It seems better to give them the new information while providing the least amount of clicks.

tedster

4:59 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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msgraph --

I have the same experience as you, getting much better results with the pop-up. In fact, I use pop-ups regularly on one site. Usually 400x300 and positioned just in from the left corner. Of course, the content dictates the window size to some degree.

I feel that including the status bar on a pop-up is a big convenience. If the server is slow or the web is congested, the user can see a little information about the download, and it helps their patience.

Along these lines, a pop-up ad for CD rentals just got me as a customer. Their entire site stayed in the pop-up window throughout the customer acquisition process, and it was extremely comfortable and usuable. It can be done right!

joshie76

5:44 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I always put a status bar on the popups so the user (and the developer!) can see whats going on.

<added>I really should have read the posts a little more closely shouldn't I? Tedster beat me to it again.</added>

rcjordan

6:03 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>500 sounds big
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I look at these as a navigational convenience. At 500, the p-u is likely to fit inside the average parent window, even if it's been resized by someone browsing w/ several windows open at once (I keep 3, sometimes 4 windows going on an average surfing expedition). I'm trying to set it up to avoid having the visitor resize the p-u, if at all possible. Something around 400 would probably be the minimum I'd use.

>delay
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I don't trust delays for info-p-u. I might like them for adverts, but probably not... depends on the circumstance.

> including the status bar on a pop-up is a big convenience.
>
Same here. As a consumer, I find that I tend to distrust a p-u that starts limiting the way I handle a page. If you, as webmaster, don't want me to go further then simply dead-end the page.

I'm a big believer in the Close form button. I like it dead-centered at the bottom of the text. Sometimes, I put one at the top left in the traditional menu area. It feels like I'm empowering the visitor, rather than limiting his options by nuking the locator bar, scrolls, etc.

tedster

7:25 pm on Dec 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I often use javascript to pre-load any images that the pop-up needs from the bottom of the calling page's HTML. This helps the window to render rapidly and hopefully defeat the X-click.