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How to create a site to earn money?

         

victorren

11:32 am on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)



I really want to earn money through affiliate, it is easy become an affiliate, but it is hard to create a website. I need learn more knowledge, ASP or PHP.... Where can I get any ASP or PHP code resource for create a site to earn money?

thegreatpretender

2:03 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If I were you I would start with the basic wysiswyg editor, it's a lot easier.

Zygoot

2:07 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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First learn HTML then learn PHP or ASP by reading books and websites.

claxonlisar

3:40 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm sure there are fourms for PHP and such. Do a good search.

Zygoot

3:52 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Indeed even Webmasterworld has forums dedicated to those languages:

PHP Forum : [webmasterworld.com...]
ASP Forum : [webmasterworld.com...]

If you really want to learn one of both languages that might be a good place to start.

webmastertexas

8:07 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dude just go rob a bank. It's very easy.

Success

8:12 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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^^ Great Advice!

itisgene

9:48 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You cannot just start web site and make money.
You have to like playing with web site. Forget about making money for many months or even a year and build a nice web site. If you can build a site and make it a nice web site for over 6 month over a year, you will see how to make money.

If you don't have a nice site after a while and you don't know how to improve it, then you'd better find another way to make money. Web/affiliate marketing is not right for you.

If you can have a good/decent site and keep improving, then you can get a better advice here to monetize the current traffic and/or to create new wen sites that can make money.

Without learning how to make/create nets, you cannot catch fish by yourself... :)

steve

10:59 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I need learn more knowledge, ASP or PHP

Which you learn depends whether you choose to host your site on:

Windows server - learn ASP
Unix/Apache - learn PHP

I went the ASP route because it uses a stripped down version of Visual Basic which I was used to.

If you decide to go the ASP route, learn ASP.NET instead, you can program in different lanuages including C and its faster.

Where can I get any ASP or PHP code resource for create a site

Get some good books from your local library and read until your eyes hurt!

Your learning won't stop there though! - you'll also need to learn HTML and CSS - to create your pages.

Jesse_Smith

12:32 am on Feb 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You don't even need to know ASP or PHP to get rich quick. Learn HTML, PPC, SEO, PR...then make sites and you could get rich quick, if you do it right.

Michael Anthony

4:42 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Just do PPC direct to the merchant. No website needed - easy peasy!

GuitarZan

4:06 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey,

I am curious as to what you guys have to use things like php and asp for in Affiliate Marketing?

IMO, you don't need to learn any of these languages. Use a WYSIWYG html editor, and you won't need to learn html. You don't need to know any programming languages to succeed.

Thoughts?

C.K.

itisgene

5:56 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It is easier to maintain the sites if you use php or ASP server site includes.

Michael Anthony

5:58 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



Cody (GuitarZan)- I agree 100%.

steve

10:48 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Use a WYSIWYG html editor, and you won't need to learn html

I agree - you can certainly start with WYSIWYG, my first site was designed using Frontpage. But the code was a mess, and it didn't rank well in the SERPS.

I still use FP but only as a html editor. Eventually you do need to learn basic HTML and probably CSS as well, if you want to rank well.

I am curious as to what you guys have to use things like php and asp for

Server side includes for footers, navigation bars and headers, I editing one file is much nicer than having to change 50!

Handy little calculators for my visitors to use, which unlike Javascript my competitors can't 'borrow'

Modifying forum and shopping cart scripts, mail a friend, site search, etc.

The list goes on and on. You don't need it when you start out but you soon will!

The most important thing I learnt was name all your pages asp (or php) from day one (instead of htm), then you won't have to rename them later when you want to add that killer asp script!

rfung

11:08 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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everyone brings different skills to the table - there's the marketers, the programmers, the designers, etc and each one offers it's own avenue to affiliate success.

Zygoot

11:19 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The most important thing I learnt was name all your pages asp (or php) from day one (instead of htm), then you won't have to rename them later when you want to add that killer asp script!

Wrong.
You can use Modrewrite for this issue.

steve

11:46 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wrong.
You can use Modrewrite for this issue

Yes it can be done, with IIS you (or your host) need to install ISAPI_rewrite.

But isn't it easier just to name your pages .asp from the start. The only downside is a slight performance hit when the server passes the page to the script engine

GuitarZan

4:07 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey,

Steve, I disagree. I use Dreamweaver and I know that the code it writes is not error free, but it is not bad. Go to pretty much any site on the net and run it through a code validator - there is always going to be errors.

Just because your code isn't perfect does not mean that you are not going to rank well.

Thoughts?

C.K.

rfung

6:00 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just do PPC direct to the merchant. No website needed - easy peasy!

Can you still do that in AW with the new changes in effect?...

disgust

6:11 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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agree completly, GuitarZan.

I know a fair share of HTML, but I tend to use a WYSIWYG for almost everything, and although the code doesn't always validate (not important to me), it ranks fine and shows fine in different browsers.

although being fluent in a server side language isn't neccesary, you definitely should know what they can and can't do. sit down and page through a php book, even if you can't digest it, it'll do you a lot of good.

a great AM doesn't need to be a great coder. a great AM knows when to pay someone else to do something. :)

it's still good to have a basic handle on it though. it can be moderately to extremely difficult to convey your ideas to a coder when you don't have the slightest idea how the backend of things works.

GuitarZan

7:22 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey,

Disgust, I agree with you too. I think going the extra mile and reading up on it can only help in the long run.

Hiring stuff out works for me, but I have only done it once. It would have been easier to convey my ideas if I had known a little bit more about PHP.

I guess in the end, once you know you can earn good money for your time (once you know what you are doing) it is a matter of deciding whether or not it is worth your time to learn the skillset or pay someone to do it for you, while you do something more productive.

All the Best,

C.K.

rfung

8:20 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Maybe too much programming skill can be detrimental too :) I am a web designer so I do my own dynamic sites. Before when I was working full time and I didn't have time do my own sites I contracted it out to some folks in India and it was a disaster - as a programmer I knew _exactly_ what I wanted and it was a chore to convey that (and go through the revisions) with the contractors. In contrast, my clients when I was working for my company were business people/admin people who had a general idea of what was needed and were satisfied with what I gave them.

I'm glad I'm not my own client :) - oh wait, I am!...

jretzer

8:31 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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WYSIWYG editor suggestions?

rfung

10:00 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dreamweaver - good for programmers too :)

Do NOT use frontpage.

teenwolf

11:21 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Definitely go with Dreamweaver.

badone

11:53 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Can you still do that in AW with the new changes in effect?...

Tell me more Rfung. What changes? What are the ramifications?

Sorry, I live in a cave ;-)

Cheers,
BAD

rfung

12:06 am on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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oh, the whole 'only one adwords ad pointing to the same landing url merchant'. Basically this was created so you wouldn't see 5 ads all for ebay, or amazon. I believe PPC'ers worked around this by creating a landing page that then takes to the merchant.

badone

6:39 am on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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OK. I see what you mean, still if you have one good ad it should be all you need?

One door closes, another one opens.... somewhere (trick is finding the opening door i guess)

Cheers,
BAD

steve

12:00 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Steve, I disagree. I use Dreamweaver.

OK GuitarZan, I give in.

As others have said in this thread - don't use FP.

But I like FP it's what I started with and I'm used to it's little quirks.

Deep down I know should use the best tool for the job, but FP did force me to learn HTML which was a good thing, prehaps I'll have a play with Dreamweaver.

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