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Thoughts on new forums?

What do we need?

         

Brett_Tabke

9:28 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Currently planning on the following:

1) doing the long over due split of PHP and PERL into separate sub forums under server side scripting.

2) adding a javascript forum.

3) splitting aff/ad forum into affiliate and advertising.

Mulling over
- a MSN forum for specific talk about msn.
- an Alexa forum.
- search engine stock, legal, and finance.

We add new forums based on need. To consider a new forum, I think we need atleast 50 threads about the topic to consider it.

What do you think we need?

vibgyor79

9:41 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mulling over
- a MSN forum for specific talk about msn.
- an Alexa forum.
- search engine stock, legal, and finance.

MSN Forum -> Good Idea
Alexa Forum -> Not required
Legal/Finance -> Good Idea

Seperate Forum required for -

- Overture
- Credit Card Issues
- Issues related to PC/Windows OS (members are currently posting threads under FOO)

There are simply too many threads under Google News. It could be split based on specific issues like PageRank etc.

Nick_W

9:44 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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XML and Related
471 threads on a site search for 'xml' - should cover all variants and related technologies.

It'd be a small thing but, this is a HUGE growth area.

Nick

hayluke

9:47 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A usability issues forum?

lazerzubb

10:39 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think Nick_W suggestion regarding XML is quite good, don't use it and don't know how to use it but sometimes i wish i did.

I just don't see a MSN forum, from previous experiences it's always been hard to follow things when you have specific forums for portals (Yahoo has it's own directory which makes it a bit special), since they use 3 different providers for serp's it think it will be a bit messy, if they change that to something else, i might reconsider it.

Not to *hot* on the Alexa forum either.

- search engine stock, legal, and finance.

50% not sure why, it just touches a few sensitive issues.

Specific Overture forum, i think it's not a bad idea, but i still think it's better to have it in the Pay Per Click forum.

Also i think Ecommerce can handle the Credit card issue, it's a really good forum to handle those issues in.

1, 2 and 3 i think are both good, HTML forum have a lot of threads about JS issues etc. And as long as no specific programs is mentioned in the affiliate forum i think it's a good idea.

And YES google news forum is very big, not sure what to suggest there.

fathom

11:16 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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#1. Usability - 277 threads, and

#2. Email marketing 199 threads, and

#3. visitor/customer service/support 328 & 133 threads respectfully

In addition, Brett you recently indicated that a sale/service website without forum (or maybe chat) interaction is losing business (or something to that affect). I totally agree.

The connection with #3. IMHO is a pre-mainstream direction but very noteworthy for inclusion.

This also extents to one of my pet-peeves FAQ's pages that rarely change, to meet todays concerns.

Brett_Tabke

11:24 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I forgot 2 others (*cough* found my notes on the subject):

Flash, and Apache.

>alexa not needed

Nearly 50 threads on the subject - we need a collection spot as they are scattered all over the place (alexa is the #16 search word of the last year and the #4 search word of the last 3 months [webmasterworld.com] on the site search engine - 750,000 searches).

Checkout this thread [webmasterworld.com] for why we need an alexa forum. That thread has wandered all over the place - that's what happens when we don't have a specific forum for the topic.

>cc issues

I'd not considered that, but I think Laz has it that the ecomm and pro.web.issues covers it for now.

>usability

That's one I'd want to find a real pro for a moderator first.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 11:32 am (utc) on Feb. 21, 2003]

ukgimp

11:30 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Usability and accessibility go hand in hand. Important considering legislation both here and over and that side of the pond.

edit_g

11:31 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'll second email marketing.

Brett_Tabke

11:33 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Big no to email marketing. Not going there into the spam issues, flame wars, attacks, and counter attacks. I won't expose the site or the members to that topic and the problems it would bring.

fathom

11:39 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hmmm... walked right by my last suggestion.

boy do I feel rejected now :(

edit_g

11:52 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What about something a bit less controversial- like "Newsletters"?

BlobFisk

12:10 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The idea of a JavaScript forum appeals to me - but concern would be that JavaScript posts are so ingrained in the HTML and Browsers forum that removing it will cut a huge chunk out of that forum?

Nick_W

12:12 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It was the same with CSS though Blobfisk, Brett whipped a couple of thousand posts out of there and Browsers is still going strong but is now better defined ;)

Nick

cornwall

12:19 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For a new Forum, there are a lot of us interested in tourism/hotels and associated areas.

"Hotels" brings up 95 items in site search ("hotel" has 152) and "tourism" has 45. I would guess other areas (bed and breakfast, accommodation, travelnow, etc) would bring up a sizable total

msgraph

12:59 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'll third the XML forum. I'm new to it, well just haven't really looked into it much, and would love to see a forum dedicated to helping others get established.

Also, I don't see the need for an "Alexa Only" forum either.

Perhaps a "Traffic Trends & Statistics" forum would be more appropriate. You could toss Alexa in there as well as other sites that focus on these topics.

Nick_W

1:04 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Perhaps a "Traffic Trends & Statistics"

Yep, chuck WordTracker and the other stuff in there too. Nice! - I don't like Alex forum either...

Nick

robertito62

1:09 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are 114 threads on affiliate marketing but couldn't found any specific forum in the 'Marketing World', only related to search engines.

Discussions on how to secure affiliate income would also be controversial?

Nick_W

1:10 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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[webmasterworld.com...]

Nick

Birdman

1:15 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How about SQL? I see plenty of threads and they don't really belong in Perl/Php forum, even though alot of times they go together.

Marketing Guy

1:19 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What about good practice?

Could be used to discuss issues regarding good design / business / marketing / usability / etc practice?

I know these areas are covered seperately in other forums, but a place to bring them all together would be nice! :)

Scott

lazerzubb

1:20 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>"Traffic Trends & Statistics"

Expansion of Keyword discussion forum?
And i think that is between the keyword discussion forum and the Tracking and Logging forum or?

robertito62

1:22 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nick_W,

thanks.

Nick_W

1:24 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What about good practice

Ohhhh.. think about it MG, the 'ethical seo' brigade would be bombarding that one for all it's worth ;)

Nick

Brett_Tabke

1:32 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> How about SQL?

Good point. (noted). Something of a general database nature would probably be better.

Birdman

1:46 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>> Something of a general database nature would probably be better

That would be great. I would be a regular there:)

aus_dave

1:47 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just a suggestion...how about web server/site security issues? I'm never sure where to post these questions and usually float between Professional Webmaster and Website Technology forums.

There was recently a long thread on password management that stayed in Foo! ;)

[edited by: aus_dave at 1:57 pm (utc) on Feb. 21, 2003]

korkus2000

1:49 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think if we added an XML forum then we would see more post then we have currently. When you consider SOAP, XSL, Xpath, and other XML technology there really is a lot to cover. XSL alone is a large topic that is quite complex.

SQL, MDX, OLAP, and normalization topics are also a large topic base. I consider XML and Data architecture the 2 missing forums here.

A javascript forum would help also.

<added>good point about security</added>

Brett_Tabke

1:52 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ya, some sort of protocol soup soup forum seem to be the way to go. xml, soap, ldp, webservices, olap, p3p, mathml, dom, rdf, xtc, w3c flavor of the hour, day, week...

Marketing Guy

2:25 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Ohhhh.. think about it MG, the 'ethical seo' brigade would be bombarding that one for all it's worth

Hehe good point - lets file that one under spam and email marketing then! ;)

Did i read somewhere that a "review my site" forum was tried before and failed?

Perhaps something like that would be a good members only feature (addition to the supporters forum)?

Scott

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