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Just curious.
have not had 2 probs here, but any probs ive had with my computer today....if anyone here is responsible please sticky me :)
Apart from that (this is the only forum i use)...all is good
I can't be the only one like this....believe me I am not an original piece of work... :)
I have felt intimidated about voicing out what I think especially when what I have to say contradicts some of the more respected members of the community. I do it anyway though.
I think emotions do play a role here when topics get really hot.
But it's the intimidation level that I truely wonder about. Of course if we were all machines this wouldn't even be a topic, would it.
That's the spirit! It's what keeps conversations interesting... different viewpoints. As long as nobody starts being rude, the more viewpoints can be brought to a thread, the more valuable it is!
What’s really unique is the fact that folks come from all over the world, have so many different skills, speak different languages. There are younger members and older members, men and women. Much of the time we don’t know who they are from their nic. There are some remarkably talented members in this forum. I know I’m in awe much of the time. I recently sent a fan sticky out to a member who I greatly admire and respect, hahaha.
We try to steer clear of conversations that will draw us to far into territory that may cause folks to take strong sides. Just like real life - discussions about religion and politics carry the possibility to push too many buttons.
You can’t believe how many lurkers there are. Maybe some of those folks feel intimidated. I know for many once you start to post it becomes addictive. I play little games with myself. Create little challenges like starting a discussion that makes it to the homepage. Ah! That feels so good. Or a discussion that draws a lot of interest or comments, either for or against. I like it when folks disagree with me or point out an error in my thinking because it challenges me to learn more about my work.
<added> Ha! "Just wait 'til you post a comment and then the thread dies" Happens to me all the time. I know exactly how you feel hasbeen ;)
Ha! "Just wait 'til you post a comment and then the thread dies" Happens to me all the time.Me too. I just try to convince myself that it's because I've said all there is to say on the topic at hand, and everyone is too intimidated to follow up! :)
Seriously, if there are any feelings of intimidation here they can only be because of the depth of knowledge at hand. Almost without exception the posters here are nothing but civil and supportive of newcomers of any experience level. After a decade or so of forums and newsgroups, I can think of only a couple of times that I could have honestly said that.
If it were so teen board where all these boys and girls talk trash about who they like then i can see where intimidation would come into play but I see everyone here as a professional. And professionals are there to learn and experience ;)
Hehe. Been there too. :)
I've been around lots of SE forums and these are the most civil, mature and patient I have encountered.
Yes the depth of knowledge here can be intimidating, but that is a good time to ask questions because when I'm feeling intimidated it generally means I'm lacking somehow in knowledge about a topic.
The feeling of intimidation wears off the longer I hang around and learn. But the feeling of awe, wonder and even revelation, especially after reading some of the "grand philosophical overview of Internet Search, Life, the Universe and Everything", threads never quite goes away.
Sorry couldn't help myself!
I agree with Brother of LAN, most everything in this forum has a certain "trade secret" about it and no one has to help you at all.
But generally if you put your honest two cent in here, you usually get back ten in return.
lawman
<added>Ok Xoc, are you saying we shouldn't take ourselves so seriously? Even all of us brilliant mods who see all, know all and are all that? Geez - now I have to go dust my ego again ;)
I think it is a matter of rationalising it out, and realising where you have strengths in your knowledge, others will have weaknesses, and vice versa, and as MIVOX says, that why most people come here. There are some that lurk around in the dark corners, who know a lot more that they let on, usually you meet them at the conferences.
BUMP. don't forget the conference.
"why don't you try <$spg plunk 88$ factor GO run zlunk*#>... see how simple that is?"
Then I'm intimidated.
"why don't you try <$spg plunk 88$ factor GO run zlunk*#>... see how simple that is?"
Exactly. Some probably send emails to their wives that read:
print "Hon, I'll be home late today.\n";
I guess I started a good discussion. I truely feel intimidated at times, when I think the discussion is going one direction and then someone comes in and basically turns the discussion in another direction. So I set and question myself, re-read the thread to see, if I mis-understood the discussion, and then I scratch my head and wonder, Where in the world, did that come from? I must be slow or something.
Pyschologically speaking intimidation is feeling we basically place upon ourselves, based on our own inadequacies. However it is my opinion, we should all be cognizant of how are words are used as to not provoke any intimidation factors on others if at all possible.
However, now that I've said that...I am constantly amazed at how willing people are willing to share their knowledge...and how gently they guide some of the less knowledgable to good information.
Please keep up the good work so that some of us can overcome our "intimdation factor".
The opposite with me. I came crashing in with a "check my site out" post :) I know im light years behind most on here, but, to some extent, its good for the lesser experienced people to hang around here (for the experts).....because we ask bare-bones fundamental questions that sometimes they get a little rusty on :)
I don't think there is anyone in here that knows it ALL. We are human just like everyone else. If you have a different opinion, express it. Keeps everyone on top of their game and the discussions interesting.
Brad, you must be psychic. ;) Only thing is, no chewed up slippers, but my cat manages to keep things from becoming too dull during the day.
I've been doing this going on four years and still feel the "DUH" factor come into my head when I read threads I don't quite understand. I've asked some questions I was afraid to ask, but figured hey, maybe I am on the right track after all.
I know there are areas I will never be involved in or learn here because of the method I'm using, but that's ok. Find what you know will work for you from what you research here. And if you just can't muster the post out of fear, sticky mail someone you trust in the forums to help you sort the question out. I'm available to help and I'm sure there are a few others who would be happy to talk as well. Asking questions is a great way to learn and I plan on continuing to learn all the time. :)
>>Travoli: I don't think there is anyone in here that knows it ALL.
Well said.
While I am certain there are moderation issues that occur, they are mostly handled privately. I think that has a big impact on helping the tone to remain professional and helpful here.
Also, I am continually amazed by how welcoming and helpful the senior members are to new members. I've seen members go out of their way to answer commonly asked questions and provide pointers to good threads.
Overall, it's a very cool place. Even if some of the code discussions can make my head spin. :)
