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The question is does webmaster world lose out by pointing real specialist questions to other relevent forums e.g. XML, ASPSQLServer, PHPMySQL or PDAs or would it gain more respect by doing so?
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A typical example is Flash - for some reason a lot of WMW members seem to detest the application and as a result you would be better off posting to a forum like Flashkit.
Hopefully that new member then becomes a regular and we all learn something new...
And then there's the board growth issue Brett mentions. The wmw forums themselves are the spawning grounds for new forums. We admittedly fumble and stumble through some of them at first but after a while things start to gel if there is repeated member interest. If you point outside at that stage you're very likely to kill it in the crib.
Conversely there is the problem of what to do in fields that are not really the remit of this community. Many of us touch on technologies that are middleware or back office technologies which although related to the web are not prime focus of webmasters. My view is that in these areas there is little to be lost and potentially much to be gained in pointing to other forums.
>view is that in these areas there is little to be lost and potentially much to be gained in pointing to other forums.
I used to agree, but that was before we had X thousand members who are, and this is a critical point, surprisingly homogenous despite our diversity. The new PDA forum as a prime example of something that I personally appreciate having a small resource building here. It's a fringe forum, but I suspect it's going to turn out to be a very useful one. Digital cameras and photography would be another example of a similar forum that might one day come of age here. Personally, I don't have a problem linking to forums that are outside our area of potential, but being a large group with generally similar interests lays claim to a lot of territory.
How often do you drive other boards members to WMW ?.</stepping carefuly>
This is such a delicate subject and if somebody like yourself or one of the other Moderators said try this forum for XYZ I most probably would the question I would then be asking myself is does this forum cover 123 and abc if the answer is yes than maybe and I mean JUST maybe I would succumb.
What would be nice is to see a new members Post read a mod on XYZ pointed be over here and this is my first class post.
I tend to find almost everything I need within a WMW what i can't find here I research and share.
That's a very valid question and I'm glad you asked. If you mean by dropping an url or just the unlinked wmw.com, would you believe "zero" ?? In fact, I don't even have a link in the profiles. Nor can I ever recall sending any other member of those communities an email to suggest that they check out wmw. I can't swear that I've never, ever done it with absolute certainty -but if I have I can't recall when. Since "rcjordan" is, well, a branded nick, I rarely use it on other boards and now travel incognito.
I know this issue of referencing other boards is always a concern to the board owner so I check in with the owner and let him know who I am. I assure him that I'm not there to pirate their members and that I'll clear any outside links with him prior to making them.
The nick is about a year older than the date shown here at WebmasterWorld, having been first used on another board. I was a senior member, around 600 posts to my credit as I recall. I followed a profile or a link (can't recall exactly, I believe it was a profile) to a very small, very specialized board by a guy name Brett Tabke. That forum was dealing in high-end spider ID-ing, cloaking, and themes and after a month or so I start posting there too. As the WebmasterWorld board grew, and I became a moderator here, I did put a link in my profile on the other board for a while but later even took that out (on my own, without any sort of prompting from the board owner). At any rate, as outlined above, I didn't break any of the other board's rules, contact any of its members or knowingly nudge anyone to join WebmasterWorld. I was a contributing member of both boards. Then someone ran a thread here about how they came to find WebmasterWorld. Quite a few mentioned that they had found it on the other board, following a profile (not mine) or a link. The other board owner shut down my nick and those of several other members without a word... big mistake.
re: Pointing specialist questions to other forums
Heh! Ian, I think I may have just listed the worst case scenario.
Also once you watch peoples posts you learn what they know and dont know, a simple sticky note to the person or wording the question properly can get you right results.
Playing the rules requires both sides to play fair with posting stuff.
Off course i don't think you should always post links, sometimes, sometimes not, i think the user pretty much now how often he can post a link, i don't think it's appropriate to post a link in every post, just because the user have beeen with the other forum for a really long time and know every thread there. Sometimes it helps not to post links to other threads because people can de velope new ideas which they wouldn't if the read the thread that the link were going to.
It's not just a forum thing either. We've got many cases where WebmasterWorld has been poached for stories from several large news outlets. Do we ban links to those sites? No - we let it go, knowing that their day will occur down the road.
authoritative sources and education:
I prefer that WebmasterWorld educate users into finding their own answers. Don't ask what is wrong with your new page design - instead, ask how to properly use a margin values. When responding, don't link to an answer in some faq, link to the section on margines found in the recommendation on HTML 4. There are html authors who've never seen any HTML recommendation. The more authoritative and official sources we can link too, the better the forums become.
Some ODP editors have launched an unofficial forum for "advice on site submissions and placement, becoming an editor and other information about the directory".hehehe
I'm not sure why they didn't just start posting answers here
will this get clipped for duplication?