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The very same.
>>"...I can't see him as knowledgeable enough for his comment to be more valid that the pro-Flash people that have written here"
Huh? His insightful quote is valid in this context. Flash has yet to find a necessary real-world application, just as Multimedia CD ROMS pretty much failed during the nineties.
Flash has niche applications but I just can't see it growing beyond that.
The next jump will be to interactive video. Once that happens, why have cutesy animations? Adaptations of the film worlds more complex animation tools will be used instead.
I think animation artists have a bright future. It's just that Flash 'aint it.
My two cents ;)
(edited by: feeder at 9:07 pm (gmt) on Dec. 11, 2001)
Actually, they have. An online music store did one. They scrapped it.
Why? Too slow to load, half their customers couldn't run it, the search engines couldn't find it, they couldn't get decent stats, error prone, client maintence was near impossible, expensive to develop etc etc...
Our company had to redesign it (non-flash) to make it work. We got the design work because the client was so pissed with the Flash happy design company that he refused to give them a cent more.
I don't think it was necessarily the fault of Flash, just bad design and failing to keep the clients needs in focus. However, once again, to use Flash site wide you would need a *valid* reason to do so.
The usual Flash justification "...because it looks pretty" is not enough to address a multitude of e-commerce requirements.
The minute Amazon moves to an all Flash site, I'll retract ;)
The suggestion was for a forum for those who liked flash. Based on the follow up, I would say there is more than enough support for a forum for those who really, really, don't like flash. :)
My 2 cents:
When flash gets you a bump in google PR, we will all love it and use it.
Slow Loading Time - Bad Design
Poor/Annoying Navigation - Bad Design
Lengthy Meaningless Intro - Bad Design
Too much Onscreen Animation - Bad Design
Poor Search Engine Visibility - Bad Design
No HTML Version - Bad Design
When designed well it is a smooth, sophisticated, intuitive, intelligent and a million times better than any other current web format.
I think one of the key problems is that it is so much harder to get reasonable results out of Flash than it is HTML.