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Trouble with WebmasterWorld RSS feed

         

mysic

10:36 am on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello, the [webmasterworld.com...] rss feed is rejected by RSS Bandit aggregator, since several months.

This is frustrating :-)

Is it possible to fix that?

Thank you

Frédéric

Brett_Tabke

10:43 am on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Not fixable any time soon. it is a rare encoding issue and only affects 1-2 rss readers that use the default ms library.

mysic

12:19 pm on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello Brett,

Thank you for your quick reply (as usual :-) )

Don't you think you loose the coming back of a large audience with this encoding problem?

Quick links to RSS validator :

[feedvalidator.org ]

[rss.scripting.com ]

SeanW

8:29 pm on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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only affects 1-2 rss readers that use the default ms library.

Also affects anyone based on PHP Magpie or Perl XML::RSS.

Sean

mysic

10:49 pm on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yop

:-)

Brett_Tabke

9:31 am on Jun 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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> Don't you think you loose the coming
> back of a large audience with this encoding problem?

It has been mentioned by 2 people in 4 years. The rss feed does about 50k unique's a day. I'd call that - a liveable problem. (compared to the solution which would involve about 200-300 hrs of programming. which is effectively a nonfixable error at this point)

> Also affects anyone based on PHP Magpie or Perl XML::RSS.

I use perl rss to read it about 100 times a day. I have never seen a error due to char encoding. We are read by many people who use PHP Magpie - encoding is not an issue that causes any fatal errors.

mysic

5:34 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

After a quick look, It appears that the only problem for now is the special character: ’

With a simple Replace('’','\''), you fix the problem ...

and I will be happy (before all the others) :-)

Frédéric

SeanW

7:11 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We are read by many people who use PHP Magpie - encoding is not an issue that causes any fatal errors.

From my feed reader:

MagpieRSS: Failed to parse RSS file. (not well-formed (invalid token) at line 103, column 176))

And using XML::RSS:

not well-formed (invalid token) at line 103, column 176, byte 5422 at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/XML/Parser.pm line 185

Sean

Brett_Tabke

9:00 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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> With a simple Replace('’','\''), you fix the problem ...

right said fred - but it's not that simple said jed. Also known as: fix it for one person, and break it for another.

The real issue here is the system used for encoding. Ultimately, we should move 100% to unicode. Unfortunately, many of todays browsers don't play nice in that arena. There is not a piece of forum software on the net that does not experience similar to this problem in one form or another. All of them must mishandle char encoding when dealing with a set of world wide browsers, todays html standards and the lack of adherence to those standards.

mysic

10:38 pm on Jun 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I can't imagine what real negative impact could have this replace.

The problematic character should come from a copy-paste of a MS Word document. I can't see this char on my keyboard

:-)

Anyway, this is not dramatic. That could be very convenient for us to add WebmasterWorld feed on our RSS reader.

Brett_Tabke

10:07 pm on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nah - it comes from foriegn character sets entered into forms such as post forms.

vincevincevince

7:26 pm on Jul 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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software on the net that does not experience similar to this problem in one form or another

Too true... I cannot agree more. If you really need the WebmasterWorld RSS feed it isn't a big job to make a script to pre-parse it yourself and either strip out or fix invalid characters on the fly.