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blaze

5:08 pm on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey how about a trust network for WebmasterWorld.

You can set a post as trusted by you.

Assuming your trust filter is on, you only see posts which are either posted by:

0) yourself
a) someone x degrees of seperation from you
b) a post trusted by someone y degrees of seperation from you
c) a post trusted by a lot of people outside of your network

You can obviously click to see posts which are outside your filter in case you are interested and want to trust something.

This way we can ignore a lot of new user whisper campaigns, col spamming, etc ad nauseum. We can also kick people out of your trust network or even "distrust them" so that people will know what to avoid.

jeremy goodrich

5:27 pm on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Afaik, there was talk about this (don't recall what happened with it though...).

Great idea. For example, some users might have inane & consitantly useless comments / which you'd just love to filter.

Others might consitantly raise the bar, make you think and reevaluate your own ideas and positions - and you might want to "follow" their advice through the forums.

In a broader sense, we've already got a social network here @ webmasterworld, why not elevate it & start executing on some of the innovations that are currently in place at the friendsters, orkuts, etc? Makes sense, and from a business perspecitive, if you consistantly raise the value of the user experience for paying customes...then, your subscriber base will continuously increase, based on the perceived value of the enhancements.

Marcia

7:15 pm on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If people want their own little social circles, they've got Friendster or Orkut; or can start their own splinter groups, hand picking who they choose. Those are not at all the same thing as an online community - and frankly aren't personally to my taste, I can do without them. I'm sure they can equally do without me as well, and quite honestly I don't give a hoot. ;)

Aside from the fact that some of the "upper-crust" elite WFA's around are the least likely to open up their little book of secrets, while the "less distinguished" just plain folks are generous, giving and willing to share, there's all kinds of room for abuse with that type of system. It could do nothing but erode community spirit, participation and growth.

Personally, I hate attitudes of pride and snobbishness, and if there were a clique/caste system instituted I'd be outta here as fast as I could.

blaze

4:02 am on Apr 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Marcia, it's not a clique based / invite only trust network.

What I was proposing was one where you could trust anyone .. and see the posts of the people they trust.

It would not be on an 'invite only' basis.

ie: I could be joe random new user and I could trust marcia and automatically see all the people marcia trusts and the people they trust and the posts they trust, etc.

grandpa

7:23 am on Apr 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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so that people will know what to avoid

What is that people should be avoiding? It looks like there will always be a few that drop in for a chance at promoting themselves. There's no avoiding that. There are (hopefully) a few folks like myself trying to figure out all this stuff at once, and more often than not posting in the wrong place, or not remembering the little things in the face of something new and seemingly overwhelming. Sometimes the response to a post like that will be a link to a previous thread. I wouldn't want to miss those :-)

Frankly, I haven't yet figured out a way to see what everyone else is posting every day. Who knows what I've missed...

I could be joe random new user and I could trust marcia and automatically see all the people marcia trusts and the people they trust and the posts they trust, etc.

How long would it take to have everyone trusted? I read that and thought to myself, "That's what exists now, without the extra layer of software or configuration."
I'm not trying to be contrary, just can't see a benefit to the network.

grandpa

7:38 am on Apr 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Pardon my double post... I've been following this thread from its inception. Here's a idea that might fly. How about a Posting Index, similar to the existing Forums Index. The difference would be that every user posting is listed, and the list can be sorted or filtered by the viewers preferances, or the default all messages by time. Doesn't sound like more than a weekends worth of work to put together...

blaze

3:18 pm on Apr 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You can control the degrees of seperation. Ie, I trust everyone that marcia trusts and everyone those people trust, but I do not trust everyone they trust.

Brett_Tabke

3:38 pm on Apr 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Interesting. There are some similar features already in the software (ignore filters, friend/foe/etc) but not enabled at this point.

The type of system suggested in post one above, sounds similar to /. post "voting" of thumbs up/down. We've been actively considering such a system, but the usability is always an issue.

grandpa

3:58 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Geeze, I just discovered the Recent Posts link, which is pretty much is what I was talking about. The filtering options could be added there.

ronin

7:52 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, actually, the comments of fools sometimes contain unseen wisdom. I'd rather listen to everyone and then choose what to filter out in my own head, rather than have a machine filter anything out before it reaches me.

TheDoctor

10:37 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I often find that I can learn something by trying to work out precisely what is wrong with a statement that appears blatantly stupid. On occasions, I learn, once again, that initial appearances may be deceptive.

If a filter existed, I wouldn't use it.

pmac

3:06 am on Apr 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>If a filter existed, I wouldn't use it. <

Nor would I.

ronin

10:53 am on Apr 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Of course none of this is an argument for not having a filter. Those who wouldn't use it, myself included, would just leave it switched off...

TheDoctor

4:26 pm on Apr 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's not a reason for not having a filter that many (most?) people wouldn't use it.

But it could mean that someone could post a request, get a perfect reply, but not see the reply because they'd filtered out posts by the replier. Things would get even wierder if the original questioner made a subsequent post that ignored information available to those who had not switched on their filters.

Presumably, in this case, there would have to be a series of posts from a variety of third parties to get the original poster to change their filter in order to see the reply to their question. (Possibly more than one of these, since some of those who post "switch your filters off!" may also be filitered out by the original poster.)

I'm not sure this would be a good thing for the Webmaster World community as a whole.

sidyadav

10:45 am on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, I'd have to strongly agree with Marcia.

I thought we were all a single community..and we respected everyone's opinions..

Where did all that seperation come from?

:)

Sid