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There's always the 6 month option if the full year option is out of reach. Brown bagging lunch for a handful of days in April would just about cover the 1/2 year fee, and one could then read & post until well into the fall.
Hmm, maybe I oughta take my own advice on that.
The secret google search
...that will list all websites in order of PR [webmasterworld.com]
Gold in it's day, but sadly before my subscription.
Brown bagging lunch for a handful of days in April would just about cover the 1/2 year fee, and one could then read & post until well into the fall.
I already don't spend money on lunch, so though this sounds good in theory, it won't work for me in fact. I don't smoke, don't drink a lot.... costs me about $180/month in diesel to do an 80 mile/day commute - obviously can't short-circuit that, too bad boss doesn't believe in telecommuting!
We owe $1800 in state income tax. Have to pay that before I can do ANYTHING fun....
Supporters is my IE homepage
My homepage on any browser isn't.... I just bookmark links I use all the time and add to my quick-launch bar. Doesn't matter which is the browser-flavor of the moment, works just fine. Don't need a home page....
But is it really about paying to gain entrance or is it about being at that point in your life where you see paying as the thing that distinguishes you in some way? That you are becoming more of a professional? That you don't ride on someone else's nickel?
For what it's worth I usually save my best work for the supporter's forum, though I've been known to spread a few around. Take a look at the "beating the big boys in the domain name game thread" - in the domains forum to get an idea. Seems like my advice made someone a few thousand dollars richer and they thanked me for it - which was nice.
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Then again, my contributions may not be worth that much to you, eh?
Okay, maybe Martinbuster's posts are worth the price of admission.
Or so I've been told by no less authority than that there Brett guy.
Ya know 'em?
Oooo. Ya is him!
;-P
"google huggers"? What mean you?
erm... how to put this politely...
"Members who seem believe that Google is some kind of charitable organisation dedicated to helping the world rather than a business dedicated to making money"
..or, more succintly,
"Passengers on the Google Cluetrain"
...either way, the problem is a lack of objectivity when it comes to Google matters.
WebmasterWorld without supporters is like a hug without a kiss
I can personally guarantee that neither Brett nor Jenstar have kissed me on .... er, the "other side" ;)
But, yes, Brett does keep starting threads on useful stuff that he is privy to. Sign up, sign up, sign up, there's no other way to know. And if you don't like it, don't renew ;-)
just got off the phone with a reporter who thought we were sorta Yahoo lovers because we had Yahoo reps in the supporters forum. There have been/are members who are sure that we had Teoma and AllTheWeb on our xmas lists.
Fact is, we simply set the table, open the door, welcome the members, and try to stay civil with everyone given the diverse worldwide audience. Some days they are going to think we are Google haters/lovers (like yesterday), and the next day they think we are Yahoo lovers/haters (like last month on the launch of SiteMatch).
When we start to hear that many different opinions about one thing or another, I know we have struck that right balance.
>...either way, the problem is a lack of objectivity
> when it comes to Google matters.
I don't know which camp you are trying to be in 4eyes, but yes I have fairly strong in criticism of Google the last year, but I feel it was with good cause as I don't think alot of those moves are in Webmasters best interest. No we are *not* pro-yahoo or pro-this/that.
It is pretty clear that there are those that wouldn't be happy with us no matter what we'd do. So we just try to keep the whiners and malcontents out of the forums so we can have discussions without all the negativitiy. We just set the table and keep folks civil to talk about what they want to talk about without getting their parade rained on by naysayers that enjoy being negative for the sake of being negative.
You are misreading my post - there is no accusation that WebmasterWorld is a 'google-hugger', merely that the 'Supporters' forum is better because the members who post there are less likely to be 'google-huggers'.
It was a recommendation to pay for membership and an endorsement of the objectivity of the members who post there.
If you follow the thread from the start this should be clear.
I have read over my words again and again and cannot see how you can arrive at the conclusion that prompted the above post
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ie the conclusion that my position is unclear.
I am on the same side as you, the side of objectivity. 'Supporters' forum is more objective due to the greater experience in there and as such well worth the expenditure.
I think Webworks summed it up quite well, though I think 'trade secrets' may be better read as seo or ranking related. It's a good news-filtering service and can focus your attention on stories that are just beginning to emerge.