Google search form on WW

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Google search form on WW

who wants it?

moltar

12:56 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

You gotta admit that WW search engine just doesn't cut it.

I think that there should be a form on WW that allows to search WW through google.

I know it's simple to go to google and type site:www.webmasterworld.com blah blah, but wouldn't it be more convinient to actually have a form right here?

Chndru

12:58 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just consider it as a give-back to google for more search hits/day :)

p.s. on serious note, why google..why not ATW or watever..I think it adds credibility to the board for not promoting a particular SE. SEs come and go..

[edited by: Chndru at 1:00 am (utc) on Sep. 5, 2003]

martinibuster

12:59 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

No.
Why Google? Google is not the only search engine. Why not Gigablast?

See what I mean?

Let's keep things impartial, I say.

Chndru

1:00 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

lol... martini beat me to it :-(

deejay

1:02 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

nope.

there's more to the web than Google, and I think it would be a negative for WebmasterWorld to be appear to be associated, even on that level, with one engine or another.

Most of us have a search toolbar of choice installed, so it's not a hassle to use that.

moltar

1:10 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

But Google gives good results for WW. Other SEs don't. Even when you search without "site:" syntax for some technical stuff most of the time WW comes first.

sun818

2:01 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

moltar, if your concern is with saving keystrokes - go get quicksearch.exe (for IE) from the Microsoft site. It will let you use two letter combos in the address bar to perform a search.

Your custom URL would be this:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.webmasterworld.com+%s

Once you set it up, you just type this in the address bar:

ww blue widgets

That's what I do anyway... :)

mack

2:25 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

If Google really want to support the forums, why not donante a search solution.

Mack.

bill

9:59 am on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Why not just add one yourself?

Control Panel � Edit System Prefs � Custom Code Insert (Top or Bottom)

...and enter something like the following:


<center>
<form method="GET" action="http://www.google.com/search">
<input type="hidden" name="domains" value="webmasterworld.com">
<input TYPE="text" name="q" size="25" maxlength="255" value>
<input type="submit" name="btnG" value="Google"><input type="radio" name="sitesearch" value="webmasterworld.com" checked> 
webmasterworld.com <input type="radio" name="sitesearch" value>www
</form>
</center>

...and presto! Your very own Google search form for WebmasterWorld!

Yidaki

10:15 am on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Why not just add one yourself?

Done! Cool! Thanks! Some things are just too simple ... :)

I added target="_blank" to the form tag.

caine

10:26 am on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

> I think that there should be a form on WW that allows to search WW through google.

If G became a default engine of WebmasterWorld, i would have to say i would probably leave the board, about the biggest commercial statement that a board with a nature and attitude of such could make. Would not be a happy bunny about it. Knowing the other members that frequent the boards, and i would have to say i've probably met a couple of hundred of them at the four past conferences we've had at WebmasterWorld, i would say that it would'nt sit all that well.

Personally, i think the se that Brett has provided is good, as long as your phrase is specific, remember this board has over 1,570,000 posts about search engines and related issues, so your searching does have to be specific to get the desired results.

killroy

10:35 am on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

So, where can I submit my own search algo that would love to be tested against 750000 pages.

caine

10:39 am on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

talk to Brett, on that one.

MonkeeSage

10:46 am on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

bill:

Superb tip! :D

Jordan

sun818

11:29 am on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

The Google results are better in my opinion, than internal search engine (Fluid Dynamics Search Engine). For example, if I search for "oscommerce" only 39 results appear using the internal search engine. But with Google there is over 200+ results. I just feel more confident with Google because I know the results are more complete than the internal engine.

killroy

12:32 pm on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I had a look at the FDSE, and implementation wise it'S a toy engine. It doesn't scale and it's not effective and efficient.

The engine I wrote doesn't ahve a spider and html parser part, as in my case it was fed structured data directly. Which is what WW could do on each submit. Each post could be added to teh index seperately so the engine could spit out posts or threads at will, and it would be up to the second up-to-date.

I think it might be worth considering, as google might come by a lot, but some posts take a day or so to reach google.

moltar

2:07 pm on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

bill thank you for this awesome tip! :)

caine

2:29 pm on Sep 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

bill,

nice one.

Alternatively use opera.

limbo

8:49 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Bill,

That should make the Library!

very nice addition to my header

Limbo

Ally_Cat

9:13 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

bill, you rock.

Yidaki, thanks for the additional tip.

Woo Hoo!

2oddSox

10:01 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nice one Bill (and Yidaki),

That's actually a very handy feature. Thanks for the heads up, although I wish I'd attempted this a bit earlier in the day and a few beers lighter. I actually went rummaging around in my W2K Control Panel wondering what the heck everyone was on about :(

2odd...

Brett_Tabke

12:05 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Give us one for AllTheWeb B ill?

bill

2:51 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

...sure :)

AlltheWeb search for WebmasterWorld
by bill - no rights reserved

Control Panel � Edit System Prefs � Custom Code Insert (Top or Bottom)

...and enter something like the following:

<center>
<form action="http://www.alltheweb.com/search" method="get">
<input name="q" size="25" />
<input type="hidden" name="advanced" value="1" />
<input name="cat" type="hidden" value="web" />
<input name="charset" type="hidden" value="iso-8859-1" />
<input type="hidden" name="dincl" value="webmasterworld.com" />
<input type="submit" value="AlltheWeb" />
</form>
</center>

pmac

2:59 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

That is sweeeet. Thanks Bill :)

bill

5:02 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

...and for the real geeks

Gigablast search for WebmasterWorld
by bill - no rights reserved

Control Panel � Edit System Prefs � Custom Code Insert (Top or Bottom)

...and enter something like the following:

<center>
<form method="get" action="http://www.gigablast.com/search">
<input type="hidden" name="sc" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="site" value="www.webmasterworld.com" />
<input type="text" name="q" size="25" />
<input type="submit" value="Gigablast" />
</form>
</center>

Brad

4:53 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thank you so much bill. I now have Gigablast at the top and ATW at the bottom and I'm one happy camper!

Yidaki

5:06 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hm, i'm not allowed to post a search form to search my niche search engine, right!? Damn, it's the biggest in its niche, really! You search for widgets all day long, no!? :D

Bill, thanks for your posts! You saved me a lot of window switching since one month ago. ;) Might be a good idea to build a library of Search Engine forms for WebmasterWorld Members ...

[edited by: Yidaki at 5:14 pm (utc) on Oct. 8, 2003]

trillianjedi

5:08 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Excellent Bill!

For the copy and pasters among us:-

Bill's AllTheWeb WW search box (all rights denied)

Bill's GeekABlast search for WW (all rights abolished)