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I have a suspicion that a large number of this mob are neither Webmasters nor Professionals- I don't consider these people Newbies, I consider them "Never-bies" because they don't fit the mold of either Webmaster or Professional, or even Amateur.
Sorry if that sounds unfriendly, but last weekend's crowd reminded me of a rabble straight out of Mad Max, and made me feel like the Feral Boy with his boomerang running for dear life.
I'm happy for the Updated Google Forum Charter, the effort is sure to maintain a higher level of discussion. However this weekend, I'm going to be on my guard.
joined:Sept 1, 2000
Let's not forget though that some of these 'rude' guys and girls, once puppy trained, turn into upstanding members!
One CSS regulars first post (or nearly) was to ruin one of mine. They are now a well valued and well appreciated member...
Still, lil' buggers do need a slap don't they? ;)
<added for the british>Yes, I am.</added for the brittish>
Someone here (thank you, [....]) went out of their way, privately, to help me out and if not for them I might still be whinning. ;) Although some newbies may need a swift, but tender, kick in the keister once in a while, as Nick_W said, they can become "a well valued and well appreciated member... "
This board and [....] saved my life :) and I need to start giving back more often to help keep it racket free.
It takes all sorts, and the world is full of relativities.
Sometimes a 'swift kick' is required ... but that probably applies to all of us from time to time, new and old. (Not that I don't sympathise with the sentiments expressed)
I think one of the things that make WebmasterWorld special is how welcoming everyone is; no questions about whether you are a professional or a webmaster. Let's keep up that welcoming friendly community spirit!
(I know that none of the posts to this thread suggested being unfriendly, but if we're on our guard too much it may appear so)
He's not, trust me ;)
Just joshing is all, I'm certain martinibuster meant this post in a spirit of fun. We do have an enourmous growth rate here and for the veterans it can sometimes be challenging to wade through some of the newbie posts.
But, newbies become members and after getting a feel for the place 99.9% of them become highly valued members.
Hi MotherE :) don't take it personally, I'm sure it's not directed at you The mods here are so good and fast you may not have noticed some of the rubbish that goes on here and there.
I guess that the percentage of opportnistic posts vs. neighbourly and useful posts is higher (though maybe only slightly :)) for new members than "older members" who know the TOS and respect the value of the community and its informal norms. Thats all understandable and applies to all communities. And im sure that even among members who joined a week ago, the great majority are not rude, crude, or lewd!
I certainly didn't mean to imply ALL new posters, just a small minority that seem to pop up on the weekends, misbehave, then are never heard from again.
As I said in my first post, last weekend was a little hairy because I came across a number of threads where people were erasing their posts, accusing others of spying on them, making rude slurs-
It's not about disagreements (ahem) (that's inevitable and to be expected), but rather about some people who don't really fit the mold of either "professional" or "webmaster." That's why we don't usually see them back.
I hope that with this post I haven't offended someone else (It's only inevitable, eh?)
Hi Brett, perhaps the quality of newbies is better on Tuesdays?
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think Brett insists on a "proper" amail address to register. Its to stop drive bys signing up multiple accounts with hotmail, yahoo etc etc accounts.
The above example of yours and I saw an amazing thread where one user had deleted all of his comments and replaced it with a fullstop :(
OK - I am a new user too - and trying to be good and helpful to others :)
By The Way - Do users ever get banned - I was previously registered and I am sure I did nothing wrong but my member name became inactive, my joined date became Jan 1 1970 and my posts became nil - not a big deal but I wondered if I did anything wrong :(
Do WW dish out penalities too?
Everybody here was new at some point.
>wondered if I did anything wrong
Probably not. Inactive members are purged from the system periodically. (Posting once in a while keeps you active.)