International Overture keyword suggestion tool

international keyword suggestion tool with count

[trevovski1]

Im looking for sites that target international markets (particularly France) that have the same thing as overtures keyword suggestions tool with its previous months count feature....

any ideas?

Thanks

[heini]

Hi trevovski, hope i understand you correctly, why not use Overture France? Besides, there's Espotting. And Adwords, for good measure.

[trevovski1]

thanks, didnt know overture had a france operation. I'll also look at espotting, but adwords doesnt do counts on searches only predicted click thoughs.

Thanks
Trev

[Fruit and Veg]

Scandanavian language tool here - keywordmaker.com/

Never used it, but it's been sitting in my bookmarks for ages so I thought I'd give it an airing. Still holding on for that Swedish models client.

[edited by: heini at 7:49 pm (utc) on Oct. 7, 2003]
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[trevovski1]

Fruit...really...who amongst us isnt!

Thanks

[heini]

It has to be said though that any keyword tool with less than, say, 50 Mill searches is not worth it. Surs, scandinavian languages is not comparable to French or German for example, much less speakers, but still this is not impressive.

[Fruit and Veg]

Heini - didn't fireball.de have some sort of keyword tool? I thought I saw something there a few years back.

[heini]

They have a spy:
[fireball.de...]
Just like Lycos, or ATW.

[Fruit and Veg]

That's it.

What does 'Bildersuche' mean? The words are in English, but it doesn't mean 'English' does it?

[trevovski1]

heine

what is a spy, is this site some kind of list of latest keyword search perform on a search engine? mostly looked like teen porn to me.

[index]

Hey Fruit - bildersuche means Picture search

[rencke]

>any keyword tool with less than, say, 50 Mill searches is not worth it

heini is absolutely right. 50 million searches should be considered a bare minimum if more than one language is used and any engine anywhere will have searches in local language + English at the very least. Even 100 million is not too much.

[Fruit and Veg]

Name a better one then.

If not, you don't have to take the numbers as Gospel but if they show that most people search for KeywordA rather than KeywordB then it gives you a good idea of what to go for.

I wouldn't just dismiss a keyword tool out of sight - anyway, 50 million sounds enough of a base to start from.

[rencke]

>Name a better one then

I don't think there are any. The only safe way is to do your own data mining, from publicly available spy pages. People who have done so don't seem willing to sell. Unless you know someone who knows someone. PubCon is good for this kind of thing.

[rencke]

Added:

Having thought some more, it occurs to me that there is a simple and nowadays also effective way for data mining at low cost:

1. Set up an Adwords account with Google.
2. Look up the Broad Matching option.
3. Type in every single keyword and phrase you can think of.
4. Examine Google's suggestions for additional matches and use them as appropriate.
5. Use their tool to calculate clicks and costs. This will give you a first rough idea.
6. Set click cost to the minimum or whatever you can afford.
7. Let the campaign(s) run for a week and check the figure for Impressions. Multiply by 52.

This should give you something almost as good as a full blown database, in a short time and at minimal cost.