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rcjordan

8:04 pm on Apr 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

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It's pretty amazing to watch the NBCi traffic take a fall over the past few days even though their LiveDirectory is still intact and the major co-branded sites appear to be undisturbed (though Looksmart may have been substituted as the default on Qwest.net -I don't really know if that's changed, however).

Of course, NBCi sacked their search box affiliate program as part of the shutdown. I assume the TV promotions are all but gone, too. Still, I would have thought it would have been more of an orderly descent instead of a crash landing. I guess it shows just how fluid the web has become... I wonder which SE will capture the rebound? From my logs it looks like Google.

Mike_Mackin

8:24 pm on Apr 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>I assume the TV promotions are all but gone, too.

I saw one last night.

David

8:37 pm on Apr 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

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It could be the demographics of NBCI with the holiday
weekend.

rcjordan

9:06 pm on Apr 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>demographics

Yes, I suppose it could be, I hadn't thought of that. As we've discussed before, their dems are quirky by comparison to the usual SEs we target.

No harm in using this opportunity to go after the BIG links however....

As you know, NBCi will soon be unplugged. My site, 'MyDomain.com - blah, blah, blah' has been a popular resource for many using your search pages, [bellatlantic.nbci.com] in particular. MyDomain has been selected as a US town-by-town destination guide by such national web sites as Allstate Insurance, Monstermoving, and Peter Thayer's 'Birding.com'. I'd like to request that Verizon consider linking to it as well.

Laisha

9:17 pm on Apr 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>I assume the TV promotions are all but gone, too.

I saw one on MSNBC 10 minutes ago. Left hand -> right hand.

seth_wilde

9:40 pm on Apr 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

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"to watch the NBCi traffic take a fall over the past few days"

How can you tell? Did it drop from 5 refferal a day to 2 refferals a day? :) (JK)

RC, I think your the only person I know who actually got decent traffic from nbci...

rcjordan

10:01 pm on Apr 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>RC, I think your the only person I know who actually got decent traffic from nbci...

Yeah, I know. NBCi was worth over a hundred uniques per day for me on this particular site, or about 25%. Boneheadicus did mention it was a good performer for his target. Now that NBCi is going belly-up, I guess this will be the last time I'll get to brag that I was asked to be on the 12-member LiveDirectory Advisor Board. (I turned it down, citing conflict of interest concerns w/ WebmasterWorld.)

Greetings!
As you may know, you are one of the LiveDirectory's most valued users. You
and a few others have submitted more sites to the LiveDirectory and had more of those sites promoted into the main directory than anyone else.
This was the deep-linked site, so my traffic results are exactly the norm either.

If their users DO switch to Google or MSN, I'll be OK. *sigh*

BoneHeadicus

11:02 pm on Apr 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Yeah I had a real estate site that got promoted into their top sites cat and it did suprisingly well there.

Are they actually going to close the site?

rcjordan

12:24 am on Apr 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>Are they actually going to close the site?

THIS will happen [webmasterworld.com]. Note the date of the announcement Brett posted.

BoneHeadicus

12:56 am on Apr 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Man...is GoTo going to take over everything?

I haven't had to pay yet but I'm not foolish enough to say that I ::never:: will cuz it's becoming painfully clear that they are taking over a large share of the searching public.

robspooner

5:44 pm on Apr 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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NBCi has quickly lost whatever remained of its diminished base of affiliates with its arrogant attitude toward payments. The following is excerpted from the most recent message they sent us:

"Please note that no checks have been distributed for Q400, Q101 or Q201. We will attempt to release payments within the next 30 - 90 days."

These payments were due on February 15. At that time, they told us March 15. Around March 15, they said second week of April. Now perhaps July 15.

I guess this means GE/NBC is strapped for cash. Jack Welch is probably not his million bucks a week for the duration, so we're all sharing the pain equally, right?

2_much

2:02 am on Apr 15, 2001 (gmt 0)

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..is GoTo going to take over everything?

GoTo's here to stay BH...I don't think they'll necessarily "take over" everything but they're going to be right in there...and their model is going to become more and more popular.

So if you haven't used them before, you may want to start thinking about it...or maybe using them in ways that can be beneficial to you without being too expensive.

rcjordan

1:41 am on Apr 16, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>GoTo's here to stay

Well, I'm not so sure. Remember, we still have a slab chilling for them down in the morgue as making deals and making money are different things. I'll dredge up the related posts here:
=====================
NFFC posts in DCM 10
"Downside's Deathwatch is a cash-flow analysis. The death date is simply the day the company will run out of cash, based on their reported liquid assets and loss rate. When the cash runs out, something bad for stockholders has to happen"

DotCom Deathwatch [downside.com] [Big page download]
====================
NF, I extracted a little list from that Deathwatch page. Here are some of the ones mentioned previously in DCM and a few I've read about elsewhere, but haven't always taken the time to reserve them a slab:

HEALTHEON CORP (HLTH)

VALUE AMERICA INC /VA (VUSA)

DRKOOP COM INC (KOOP)

ONEMAIN COM INC (ONEM)

CROSSWALK COM (AMEN)

ENGAGE INC (ENGA)

BIZNESS ONLINE COM (BIZZ)

BLUEFLY INC (BFLY)

ILIFE COM INC (ILIF)

THEGLOBE COM INC (TGLO)

QUEPASA COM INC (PASA

24/7 MEDIA INC (TFSM)

VITAMINSHOPPE COM INC (VSHP)

JUNO ONLINE SERVICES INC (JWEB)

MAIL COM INC (MAIL)

LOISLAW COM INC (LOIS)

TICKETMASTER ONLINE CITYSEARCH INC(TMCS)

BEYOND COM CORP (BYND)

E LOAN INC (EELN)

IVILLAGE INC (IVIL)

E STAMP CORP (ESTM)

NETCENTIVES INC (NCNT)

PLANETRX COM (PLRX)

DRUGSTORE COM INC (DSCM)

MUSICMAKER COM INC (HITS)

ETOYS INC (ETYS)

GARDEN COM INC (GDEN)

SALON COM (SALN)

ASK JEEVES INC (ASKJ)Death date: Apr 16, 2001

TALK CITY INC (TCTY)

RAMP NETWORKS INC (RAMP)

MP3 COM INC (MPPP)

GOTO COM INC (GOTO)Death date: Jun 12, 2001

AMAZON COM INC (AMZN)Death date: Jul 10, 2001

FATBRAIN COM INC (FATB)

CNET NETWORKS INC (CNET)

VERISIGN INC/CA (VRSN)

INFOSPACE INC (INSP)

MARKETWATCH COM INC (MKTW)

EARTHWEB INC (EWBX)

PEAPOD INC (PPOD)

Brett_Tabke

7:23 am on Apr 16, 2001 (gmt 0)

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What has been the specific reason the traffic has dropped? I am evidently only getting part of this story here. What has nbci turned off?

rcjordan

3:17 pm on Apr 16, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>What has nbci turned off

So far, the only thing I can find is their paid 'search box' affiliate program. It was 4cents/search back in December, then reduced to 1cent in early March, then abandoned last week (NBCi says a publisher might wish to continue providing it as a free resource -yeah, right!). Everything else is still up and functional. So, given the drop that closely coincided with their revocation of the affiliate program, I'd say that this indicates that a significant amount of NBCi's traffic was being driven that program. If this does turn out to be the case, the publishers reacted with amazing speed. (I pulled down 4,000 active search boxes in about 45 minutes, for instance.) Also, what about the TV ads and branding? Where is the residual traffic from that? ....much to contemplate here.