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Based on this....is DMOZ adding my site?

odd entry coming from referrer stats

         

tvldeals

1:23 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I noticed this entry under my referrer stats for my site today...

[editors.dmoz.org...]

Were they just reviewing my site or is it suffice to say that they may be adding us?

If so, is it immediate or will it take awhile? I do not see it live on their site, based on this category, but again this appeared about noon today.

Any help would be most appreciated. Hopefully it will be added, but of course this could be wishful thinking on my part!

I submitted our site a few months back.
;0)

cbpayne

9:54 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It could just as easly mean that DMOZ is rejecting your site; or an editor looked and decided to come back to it later, or move it to another category or ... any number of things

pmkpmk

10:47 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It means an editor has visited your site from the editor backend. Nothing more, nothing less. Just visited.

hutcheson

5:04 pm on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well, it could also mean some competitor is playing with your mind by using an HTTP client with programmable REFERER tag....

Don't look at me like that! I'm wearing my tinfoil hat. And that's the most plausible ODP-related conspiracy theory I've heard all year...

Reid

11:37 am on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I had a simple DMOZ.org in my referrals last month but it's gone this month. I suppose it was just a look from an editor.

I have a site that has lots of good orig info but i also run one adsense block on each page (not in a flashy or obtrusive way, just there thats all.

I don't know if this is a cardinal sin in DMOZ or not.
The way I see it is - include it if you like but adsense stays because DMOZ don't pay the bills.

I'll still come and bug DMOZ editors every 6 months until hell freezes over just in case.

hutcheson

9:47 pm on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Advertising -- of any kind -- has never been a bar to a listing. From the beginning the ODP has listed (for instance) Geocities sites with the standard Geocities ad banners, topical sites with on-topic Amazon affiliate links, Real estate or travel agent sites with their seasonal specials, etc.

The bar to listing is the absence (or relative paucity or obscurity) of "informational content" -- which in this context, might be described as "mere trivia, corroboratory detail of no value or relevance to the purpose of persuading the mark to part with his cash."

My experience is that people who have a mindset to focus on the ads, often can't keep from having that attitude dominate their ostensibly non-promotional writing. And _that_ IS a bar.

bears5122

10:58 pm on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Probably just an editor looking at your site, realizing you are a competitor, and clicking delete. :-)

tvldeals

11:41 pm on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Competitor to DMOZ? This is a travel site so sort of doubt that...

jo1ene

1:16 am on Apr 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You've definately been reviewed. Who knows if you'll be listed or not.

DMOZ - One never knows...

TheRookie

1:54 am on Apr 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Competitor to DMOZ? This is a travel site so sort of doubt that...

Competitor to the editor's own site.

uzs980

3:53 am on Apr 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Editors deleting competitors' sites without a good reason will be removed.

If you want to know the status of your submission (whether it has been reviewed and with which result), just ask. Open Directory editors run a public forum, for example for submission status requests.

waverider

9:09 am on Apr 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If the referal URL is correct you have been reviewed.

Newly added sites first appear in editors.dmoz.org subdomain and after a few days they propagate to dmoz.org.
ODP servers are pretty loaded and propagation takes a few days.
You may have noticed that ODP search almost never works due to overload.

If you would have been added and show in editors subdomain.dmoz.org for now and not on dmoz.org the referal URL would look like this:
[editors.dmoz.org...]

bears5122

6:56 pm on Apr 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Editors deleting competitors' sites without a good reason will be removed.

Although this false sense of hope will soothe some new to DMOZ, I think most of us know better. DMOZ does delete bad editors, but it is such a small percent.

hutcheson

11:28 pm on Apr 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>If the referal URL is correct you have been reviewed.

I do not believe this.

I agree, most likely the site was accessed from the "unreviewed site" queue.

But that is not always a review for possible listing. In fact, I suspect that half of the time (or more) it is NOT a review for a listing.

But what would I know? I haven't even done 100,000 edits yet. Maybe should I should instead be pontificating about, um, how the new pope should organize the Holy Congregation. I'm not Catholic, so that would make me the obvious expert on THAT subject.

Reid

2:57 am on Apr 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you want to know the status of your submission (whether it has been reviewed and with which result), just ask. Open Directory editors run a public forum, for example for submission status requests.

You are only allowed to ask once every six months and I just asked one month ago (reply still waiting for review) so i still have to wait 5 months before i can ask again.

I suspect either
1. I was moved to a different category because I shot too high (pretty high)
2. I was in the middle of updating my site to a new look (which I explained in what's new) so they put me back on the shelf for a while
3. I was rejected (which i will find out in 5 months)

Hutchenson - thanks for the info. ie that adsense alone will not get you rejected. As long as the site is written for the user and not for the ads, I can understand that.

waverider

7:26 pm on Apr 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am not catholic either, but I am an ODP editor.

Through re*view* I understand that your site has been *view*ed by an editor. That would explain the referral URL.

If the referral URL was correct as I was saying... since that can be tricked easily, though don't see any reason for someone to do that.

I might have a different perception for the term "review".

hutcheson

9:25 pm on Apr 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The difference is between "access" (that is, some editor clicked on a URL) and "review" -- the editor actually looked at the site with intent to perform some editorial task. And the point is, there are many reasons why an editor might access a site and yet decide not to review it.

If you are thinking "access" means "reviewed, and a decision made about listing", you're going to be out of touch with reality for most of your divinations, um, log analyses.

An "access" followed by "no visible listing within a week" is NOT necessarily (or even usually) a "rejection". There are way too many other possibilities to even guess. (For instance: most submittals are to the wrong category. At best, the first access is simply going to result in a move to a better category. Is that a rejection? No, it's progress! Is it a "review"? No, just a preliminary screening.)

We have enough paranoid ODP conspiracy theories ("my site was rejected because aliens control my competitor's computer") already, without allowing these innocuous logs to be falsely cited as evidence of rejection.

Reid

2:35 am on Apr 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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An "access" followed by "no visible listing within a week" is NOT necessarily (or even usually) a "rejection". There are way too many other possibilities to even guess. (For instance: most submittals are to the wrong category. At best, the first access is simply going to result in a move to a better category. Is that a rejection? No, it's progress! Is it a "review"? No, just a preliminary screening.)


That is precisely what I meant by #1 and 2 in my previous post. I would view that as 'progress'.
My best guess is that i was moved to a different category because although I think I would fit in that category, if I got it then I would be the only one there, so I think they 'placed me' into a deeper category, which is fine by me, I wasn't sure where I should go.