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What is the point of putting something so transient in a directory?
I really don't get this one. Not that I have to wait 3 months to get a site in the ODP or anything.
What is better for the user? - a 10 site category with 9 sites expressing the same point of view or offering the same sort or service and a news report expressing a different point of view OR 10 sites in a category all offering the same service or point of view? Which one better serves the user?
Why do to find it hard to believe what you are seeing?
The ODP has a bunch of categories that are of local significance only in Regional. If a jet airplane crashes today in my hometown, the only way at first to include this fact in the ODP would be through links to news reports. Might be a while before someone puts up a dedicated site about this disaster.
And kctipton FYI I happen to run a whole load of local interest sites and free sites for local charities. But, hey, I guess we can't all be as worthy and not try to make money out of something we seem to be good at.
Also as if I'd try to get an aff site listed in the ODP I do realise that if they listed this kind of site it would be the end of any integrity they have
joined:Apr 13, 2002
Based on your posts in this thread I wonder if you have any sites that are listable.
Sheesh. Enough with the personal attacks, ok?
It's annoying how every time someone brings up a question about the odp, some editors crawl out slinging mud. Let's be civil and save the personal attacks for another forum. Thanks. :)
Please try to keep to the topic. We're here to discuss issues. It's contrary to the spirit of WebmasterWorld to attack people for asking questions or holding a contrary opinion.
Just a friendly heads-up. ;)
[edited by: martinibuster at 8:57 pm (utc) on Aug. 28, 2004]
At the same time, a story about yesterday's unremarkable weather would almost certainly not merit a listing.
In other words, newspapers should be treated no different than anything else.
If your gripe is the listed newspaper story is lightweight, that would be one thing, but to complain that something is wrong in listing anything from a newspaper, that just isn't very logical.
And those of us who do watch the internet accumulate the sum of human knowledge are aware that 150-year-old newspapers and newsgroups can still be of significant interest, which is why there are so many projects that are archiving them and/or publishing them on the net.
Contemplate the nature of all human works. Consider the stability of even the best websites -- the ODP has changed names twice, and owners twice (not at the same times). Project Gutenberg has gone through two site reorgs that I'm aware of; CCEL has done one (along with a name change and a sponsor change, not any of them at the same time.) The Cyberhymnal has gone through at least three; Encyclopedia Britannica through two; Geocities through two. And then ... maybe the ODP's toleration of transient things won't seem so odd. After all, we don't have access to the celestial internet, so we link to what we can reach.
On the principle of never attributing to malice that which can be otherwise explained, I'll happily assume you weren't malicious. You're welcome to study our editing guidelines -- someone who creates pro bono websites may have at least one of the less common qualifications for an ODP editor (a public spirit). Have you considered offering to edit the Society and Culture category of your locality? An hour a week will probably enable you to contribute something to your community, and give you a deeper understanding of the ODP that cannot help but improve your website design and promotion skills.
LOL - considering your consistently inflammatory posts in this forum, and in R-Z - I would say that this is an ironic statement on your part.
Despite your apparent pretensions to the contrary, no one appointed you Chief Inquisitor of the ODP.
Why don't you build the world's largest toothpick scuplture, take up macrame, or Albanian square dancing - you are obviously having problems handling the stress of editorship.
joined:Apr 13, 2002
Which is what? "ODP listing individual news articles" or, "The death of objectivity and common sense"?
Now you're making progress identifying the talking points of a thread. :)
Someone holding an opinion different from yours doesn't automatically put a bullseye on their back. Personal attacks are not welcome. By engaging in personal attacks you not only disgrace yourself, but you bring disgrace to the fine editors of the Open Directory Project.
So chill out and learn to live with the fact that there will always be people who disagree with you. Yet despite disagreements, personal attacks have no place in a civil discussion.