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Where to Post a National Company in DMOZ?

         

gpmgroup

9:27 pm on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We have a site we look after for a National Company.

We have tried submitting it twice to DMOZ (about 1 month ago and about 4 months ago) to the national business catagory it fits in but each time we have heard nothing back. The category is also "looking for editors"

Would submitting each branch to their local geographic business section effect us getting a listing in the national category?

What is the best way to proceed with the national listing?
Re submit / wait / try and become an editor?

cbpayne

2:25 am on Jul 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>The category is also "looking for editors"

Every category has lots of editors that can edit it.

>Would submitting each branch to their local >geographic business section effect us getting a
>listing in the national category?

Thats called spamming DMOZ. Don't do it.

>Re submit / wait / try and become an editor?

Once you have submitted there is nothing more you can do except wait.

DMOZ always needs good editors, so become part of the solution and apply - however, I do not know the catgeory you are talking about --> may be too big a category (including subcats) for a new editor to be let loose in.

cbpayne

2:28 am on Jul 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<MOD - please delete if this post getting too specific>

BTW - if you are talking about the site in your profile that is part of your email address, it already has a regional DMOZ listing.

hutcheson

6:34 am on Jul 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>each time we have heard nothing back.

That is what you'll always hear.

A submitted site goes into a pool, which editors may use to help find sites for a category they're editing. It's not considered an invitation to correspond -- quite the reverse: editors are strongly encouraged NOT to correspond with submitters; and editors who don't follow the recommendation usually discover -- very quickly -- the reason for that recommendation.

Also, you don't know how long it will take an editor to review the site. I went through about 400 submittals today; I think I looked at the date for one or two submitters. All the others -- I don't know or care when they were submitted. I just did what was needed.

When I logged in, I had no idea at all that I'd be looking at that category. I went there because of a casual question (about ANOTHER category) in another forum, and I got ... involved. Which makes the other important point: WE can have no possible way of knowing when an editor will review a site. A question in one category, a misplaced submittal in another, bringing me to a not-obviously-spammy submittal in another category, which happening to correspond with a personal interest piqued my curiosity.... And I'm building a category for a park I never heard of before. Who could have expected that?

Multiply that by thousands, and you get the picture. For efficiently building a comprehensive directory and limiting systemic bias, the random approach has _enormous_ advantages. As far as predicting the future of one particular site, it's hopeless.

gpmgroup

9:26 am on Jul 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Would submitting each branch to their local geographic business section effect us getting a listing in the national category?

Thats called spamming DMOZ. Don't do it.

If the company has a branch and a customer sales office in each of the towns submitted to is this still considered spamming?

Assuming multiple entries are allowed and not considered spam....
When a company has mulitple entries in DMOZ is there any relationship between the entries? i.e. Does having an entry in one category bar entry to another?

gpmgroup

9:37 am on Jul 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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BTW - if you are talking about the site in your profile that is part of your email address, it already has a regional DMOZ listing.

No I was not referring to site site in my profile. That site went into DMOZ very quickly :) I submitted it as a test after a few months of nothing happening with the first site I submitted. (I was wondering if I had done something wrong when I submitted the first site).

flicker

4:09 pm on Jul 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>If the company has a branch and a customer sales office in each of the towns
>submitted to is this still considered spamming?

Yes. If you have physical offices in twelve different towns in Iowa, we then consider your "region" to be "Iowa," and move your listing up the tree to the Iowa category. If you have offices in twelve different states, we consider your "region" to be "United States," and move the listing up to that level. With very few exceptions, we don't list businesses multiple times in the regional tree. A business located in many different towns simply has a broader region than a business located in one town, so they get listed in a broader regional category.

The standard guidelines are that a business may have up to one listing in Regional (if it has a real physical location), up to one listing in one of the commercial categories (Business or Shopping or Computers or wherever it belongs), and up to two listings in the World category of each language it is written in (machine translations need not apply). So a widget-maker with three North Carolina offices and a website bilingual in English and Swahili could have one listing under Business/Manufacturing/Widgets, one listing under Regional/United States/North Carolina/Business and Economy, and one listing in World/Swahili/Business (possibly two, if the Swahili category also has a Regional/United States category).

Sometimes we give more listings than this to a site with an exceptional amount of content on different topics (museum websites, for example). Editors make decisions like those ourselves, though, and we's prefer the Smithsonian not to submit 1200 URLs to us (even though each one probably really is higher quality than most submissions we get). If there's a lot of interior content in your site that you really think would be valuable enough to deeplink (i.e. educational and informational material, not products and additional business services), then I recommend putting a bracketed note in the submission asking the editor to consider the deeplink URLs as well. *Please* don't just submit all 250 pages of your site to us, no matter how great you think they are. It slows things down for everyone. If your site really deserves 250 listings (a rare case, but some sites really do have that much information), we'll be able to add them more quickly on our own anyway. I've given multiple listings to sites that were submitted once on many occasions, and I never mind a little note like [please consider www.myhistorysite.com/worldwar1.htm, www.myhistorysite.com/worldwar2.htm, and www.myhistorysite.com/koreanwar.htm for additional listings].

gpmgroup

12:35 pm on Jul 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Flicker, thank you for taking the time to post such a detailed and informative reply it really is appreciated :)