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because the web promotion work is very fresh to me ,our company has many customer's website, but now i can't remember which has been listed in ODP.
I hope you can give me a direct answer,thanks!
I just post a thread to ODP ,but they don't qive a good reply
Assuming you have the same user name here as over there, the it looks like:
1. you did not read their guidelines for a properly formatted request; and you posted in the wrong forum. The first reply told you that.
2. you posted in the right forum but did not provide a properly formatted request. The second reply tells you that.
3. you posted here saying that they don't give a "good reply"
Your next step may be to tell your client that you are taking every possible step to annoy the OPD editors.
If you tell what category a site was submitted to, they can check on the submittal. But if you don't know what category the site was submitted to, then you must start all over as if nothing had ever been submitted.
That's not a problem for ODP editors: a site doesn't have to have been submitted for them to review and list it. It's not a problem for professional SEOers that keep accurate records of what they've done. And it's not a problem for a webmaster, who can generally remember whether he's submitted his site. (It doesn't so much matter logically WHERE it was submitted: ODP editors will eventually move it to the right category.)
If the site is not eligible for listing, submitting it once (even if it's never been submitted before) may cause you problems.
The solution is simple and obvious. Make sure that the sites are really eligible for listing, and submit them once.
IMO, you're best bet is to 'submit and forget'. If you get in, great. If not, at least you will have been spending your time gathering other links and not wasting time asking their board of your status.
I like the OPD, but it is really slow to add sites in some categories and there isn't anything we can do about that :( <added>Except become editors ourselves</added>
As hutcheson if its a good listable site, no problems ... If it was to be a problem, I would just get a free email address and submit a competitors site every day ... DMOZ is smarter than that.
>How long is a good time to wait
>before posting in the public forum?
Submit it. Check at public forum after one month that its there. Forget about it.
What you're being told is that they're not listed; they may already have been submitted, but we have no easy way of figuring that out. Several editors have advised you to go ahead and resubmit, once, to the one best category. One more submission will not hurt you.
Also, if you're more comfortable in a language other than English, you may want to try asking your question in the Non-English section of our help forum. I'm not permitted to link to it from this site, but if you go to the help forum and scroll down to the World section, you'll find them. The one titled "Non-English" is for all languages that don't have their own forum.
Just an idea. (-:
I posted on the forum but sadly he attempted to submit while I was doing this! It appears that each submission overwrites the previous submission, so effectively if editors are working in date order, this moves the submission back to the bottom of the heap!
This was a sad day for him! I told him never to submit again!
Or get it banned automatically ---- as is made clear in the OPD guidelines:
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Occasionally, repeated submittals do cause trouble. Of course, occasionally editors make mistakes and delete submittals accidentally. So the ODP submittal policy is the optimal approach: submit, wait awhile (I'd say three months or so), submit again, then wait a few more months. Asking editors about the site in the forums is optional -- it gives emotional relief to some people and gets a few editor mistakes corrected, but usually doesn't do anything to get a site reviewed more quickly.
With regard to your point regarding resubmitting, my worry is that the guideline may be 3 months but invariably it takes far longer than 3 months to be granted a listing, in my experience. If the editor does review in date order this could become a never ending circle of misery, which sadly does not appear to be unusual.
Another specific problem is that the section he has submitted to has no editor and neither do the two parent sections. Is anybody responsible for sections such as this.
It is quite odd, actually, as the category is in an extremely competitive, high volume ecommerce market but I guess as such it isn't particularly interesting to look at!
Just for the record, I actually downloaded dmoz recently (for something to do I guess ;-) ) and I was astounded by the size of it. I now realise what an enormous project it is and perhaps have more understanding regarding the delays. I do, however, feel very sympathetic for my collegue who has paid a lot and worked hard to produce a high quality site which is undoubtedly a valid and desirable submission which has been unprocessed for about 2 years :-(
Even if editors review sites in submittal order, your vision of the drudge working down a category 1 site a day/week till the bitter end, corresponds to no observed reality.
What an editor will typically do is dive in, do a dozen (or few dozen) sites, and leave for another six millenia. Or a group of editors will get together and bash at all the unreviewed sites in Arts/Expurgated_Widgets, ignoring altogether the equally ancient submittals in Shopping/Widgets/Expurgated (or vice versa).
And what you say about "competitive categories" is true. Editors focus on areas where it is more likely to have unique content, and easier to determine content is unique. That means competitive categories get neglected. And even when they aren't neglected, an editor can spend hours just cleaning out the spam without listing a single site (perhaps without stumbling over a single site that is obviously listable). So a lot of the work in those categories goes unseen.
So I'll do anything in:
regional/country/state/big-city/business/financial-services and I'll do all of those before I even look at:
regional/country/state/big-city/business/employment It make take weeks to get up to:
regional/country/state/big-city/ which is the highest I can edit. If (as I always do) I find suggested sites in there that really belong lower down, I shift them down so they will be there for me to review properly the next time I do the lower category.
So a site submitted too high will be missed until the end of my current pass, and then properly positioned for review on my next pass.
That may lead to an apparent "review delay" of several months. (Or it may not. I am not the only editor at work here). The problem, of course, was the original submitter not taking a few moments to correctly position the suggested URL.
And, of course, it does not create an actual "review delay" -- I've not been delayed in any way. It's just the order in which I do things has been affected. It's just affected adversely a site that failed to read the guidelines while benefiting others that did.