Think DMOZ doesn't matter?

ODP categories like the above are statistically very rare. And in particular, for most of the webmasters who read and post here, it is even more unlikely their site would qualify for listing in such an ODP category.

Also, in almost all cases, if the ODP cat for such a site is so small, likely it isn't a competitive area. High PR isn't important for Google when there are few competing sites for the SERPs in question.

To summarize: for a number of VERY good reasons -- any one of which would be sufficient by itself, "competitive" categories attract less editor attention.

Can someone please explain to me the above statement?

By getting listed on DMOZ does it really create that many additional links on Google? Does it also create additional traffic too?

How does this work? Is DMOZ the center of the universe when it comes to links?

Can anybody share any of their real stories with me?

Any help on this subject would be appreciated.

Thanks!

However, almost all these dmoz clones have virtually no PR and therefore virtually no benefit to the sites listed. Also there is no obligation to update your copy of the dmoz directory at any time, so many versions are many years old and don't include millions of sites that are now listed in the latest dmoz directory.

There are probably only three clones that generate any significant traffic for your average site - dmoz.org itself, the Google Directory and Alexa's copy of dmoz. Other copies might send you the odd visitor once in a blue moon and the odd atom of page rank from the link, but not much else.

I do not think you really answered my question. What I would like to know is this:

I have seen many popular sites that have hundreds even thousands of links from Google.

Obviously these links came through some type of back door or something like that for these websites to have so many links on Google. I do not think someone typed in url's to all these site.

I want to know exactly how I can do the same thing.

Does DMOZ clones provide these links. How is it done?

It's really not that odd for there to be more than a thousand links to a site if it's the kind of site that makes people want to link to it (either because it's a great internet resource, because it runs a successful affiliate program, or just because it's faddish--there must be tens of thousands of blogs linking to popular web quizzes and the like).

Here is what I do not understand.

Can you explain why I have over 4000 links in alltheweb, over 600 in Lycos, over 50 in MSN but only 8 in Google and AOL?

I just do not understand why this is? What can I do to get more links recognized by Google?

For a small niche-topic site that gets about 20 to 40 visitors per day, from the logs I see that in the last year, there were only 4 visits IN TOTAL from dmoz clones (not counting Google Directory). So that is 4 visits in over 10 000 total.

Ask the question in the correct forum?

I've never seen an ODP clone show up in a Google link: command, except for Google's own directory

I have seen one (ScienceDaily) - it has a higher PR

Check the backlinks of some of the higher level editor profiles and you'll see a number of clones that have sufficient PR to be listed.

Google doesn't display all linking pages in response to the link: command -- only those above a certain PageRank threshold (approximately 4). That, though, does not necessarily mean that those links aren't taking into consideration in ranking or in calculating PageRank.

>> I've never seen an ODP clone show up in a Google link: command, except for Google's own directory

I see a handful of clones listed among the links for several of the sites the work on. As mentioned earlier, most of the dmoz clones have little PageRank, so they tend not to be listed and they contribute little to your own PR.