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ODP, how to get listed?

         

leatherlollipop

6:07 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello everyone! I have been trying to get my site listed on ODP for several months. I have submitted to them 3 times now, not wanting to overdo it and anger anyone. I am choosing the exactly correct category and subcategory for my site, as I see also that my competition's site is there as well. In fact all of my competitions sites are there but mine. I have also volunteered to become an editor as well, not even a reply of yes, no, or anything. I have a commercial site, that is not spammy, in fact it has none of the spammy type tricks that some of my competition use. I also emailed them a very respectful letter asking if there is anything I need to change or do in order to get listed. Not a response to that either. I truly cannot imagine that I have done anything to anger them, however, why on earth would I not get listed? Does anyone know if there is someone in particular at ODP that I could email and that may actually reply? It would help me greatly to be listed in the ODP directory as every one knows. Thank you for all your help. There is a wealth of knowledge in these forums.

coconutz

7:08 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It could be that your suggestion is sitting amongst a large number of other suggestions and has not been reviewed. This may be the case as you mention that your site is commercial and those categories seem to have a very large backlog. Just because a site has not been added to the directory in the category it was submitted to, does not necessarily mean it was not accepted.

Resubmiting to the same category will usually overwrite your previous submission and if the editor chooses to sort/review the submissions by submission date, you're moving your suggestion further down the list when you resubmit.

>>I have also volunteered to become an editor as well, not even a reply of yes, no, or anything.

When you submit an application there is an email sent to you that you must reply to. If you did not receive and reply to this email, your application was not received.

There is an ODP Public Forum where you can inquire about the status of your suggestion (and receive an answer). There's also a Become an Editor forum that you might find helpful.

Welcome to WebmasterWorld.

Dynamoo

12:43 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you've applied for a commercial category, then it's quite likely that you'll be rejected, because the risk (to the ODP) of abuse is to great if you have an interest in the category.. note that I'm not saying you *would* abuse it, but the ODP doesn't like to take the risk.

Generally speaking, before most editors are given access to sensitive or difficult parts of the directory, they have to prove themselves elsewhere.. and this is quite time-consuming.

leatherlollipop

3:05 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thank you both for your replies. Let me ask you this, I submitted my suggestion to the same category because it says that one must choose the most appropriate category to get listed. Also, I have gone to ODP and put in the two words that are my company name and also my website address and it comes back with nothing, so I assume I have not yet been accepted. I will go check out those forums, I really appreciate your help. Thanks a lot!

John_Caius

3:06 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Um, Dynamoo - I see what you're saying, but (at least in my experience) I think it's not unusual to be accepted to a commercial category in general as a new editor. Certain specific commercial categories, such as online pharmaceutical sales, hotel booking, gambling etc. are particularly spam prone and unlikely to be given to new editors, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it was an issue for any commercial category.

My advice would be as above, to visit the ODP public forum to discuss the specific details of getting your application successfully submitted and then successfully accepted. :)

PS it is not at all uncommon for applications to take 3-6 months to be accepted. The best way to check is to navigate directly to the category in question and look. Otherwise, use the search but without the www. bit of your domain name.

choster

3:17 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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3-6 months
What directory is this? All applications are at least reviewed within a few hours after you reply to the autoresponder; the overwhelming number of rejections are returned within a few days and acceptances within a few weeks. If an application takes more than a month it is usually because it is written in a language none of the reviewing meta-editors speaks (we are underrepresented in Eastern European, Central and South Asian, and African languages).

leatherlollipop

3:37 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello again. I did type in my address without the www and it still shows nothing. I was just over there reading the forums and frankly, there are a couple of the editors responses that sounded kind of rude. For instance, one editor stated that they were not a submission service to webmasters and that they do not feel that submissions they receive are all that great and it is better for them to go looking for sites to add themselves. I am a little concerned to go in there and ask why MY site is not listed or what I need to do to get it listed for fear of making someone angry and getting permanently banned. What do you recommend? I do not mind being patient and by the way, the most important part to me is getting my site listed, not becoming an editor, however I would not mind helping out with the directory. I also had applied to be an editor of a small category that was not related to my site. Never got any reply. Over the last couple of years I've applied probably 4 times, so I have no clue what is wrong. Do you think if I post to that forum, put my link on it and ask what I need to do to get listed that I will p someone off?

John_Caius

3:42 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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applications => site submissions

new editor applications are indeed reviewed pretty quickly.

whoops!

John_Caius

3:48 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you never got a reply to your editor application then it almost certainly didn't get through. Check in the Editor Application forum there for more details on problems that some people have with submitting the form. You can only be accepted or rejected once you've replied to an automated e-mail sent out to you.

With your site, absolutely you should post in the submission status forum. Your site is either listed somewhere you haven't found it yet, sitting in a queue waiting to be reviewed or rejected. You only need to worry about the content of your site if it's been rejected. If you've got substantial, useful, unique content then it should just be a matter of time.

If you were able to see the quality of loads of the sites in certain unreviewed queues, you'd understand the frustration expressed from time to time by certain ODP editors. It's not directed at webmasters in general, just certain webmasters in particular. It's frustrating that good sites have to wait to be listed for a long time because they're drowning in a sea of affiliate MLM...

:)

leatherlollipop

4:02 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks again. I've gone and posted on the site submission status forum. I hope to at least get a response. I see some people have received multiple responses and others none. Thanks everyone. This is a great forum and I've learned a lot!

Wynter

kctipton

4:48 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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one editor stated that they were not a submission service to webmasters and that they do not feel that submissions they receive are all that great and it is better for them to go looking for sites to add themselves

Hey, that's exactly what I would say. ODP isn't a submission service, and nobody should feel guilty if some submissions are NEVER reviewed. We want to build a directory, you want to get in, but it's never been a FIFO system. Some submissions may never be reviewed, others may be reviewed over and over but never get in.

No site's guaranteed a listing, and no listing is guaranteed to last forever.

That said, there's no penalty for asking at RZ about whether your site is still awaiting review or not.

leatherlollipop

5:40 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello and thank you for your reply! I do understand that ODP is not obligated to me or anyone else to get our site listed in the directory. I do understand also that you get a lot of spam, sites with no content, etc and I know that there must be tons to go through. It is just kind of frustrating when one cannot get their site listed in a very important directory like ODP. Once you get listed with ODP, then you are listed with Google directory, etc. etc. I just wanted to know if there is something about my site in particular that would get it rejected. I am willing to change things, if necessary. Like many people, this is how I make my living, and I have worked hard to make it a spam free site and relevant to what I sell.
I see my major competitions sites all listed and some of them, (not all), use some keyword stuffing, etc. But anyway, not trying to complain, just trying to learn what I need to do in order to get listed. Thanks everyone for their time and help. It is greatly appreciated!

BillytheKid

6:21 am on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I see my major competitions sites all listed and some of them, (not all), use some keyword stuffing, etc. But anyway, not trying to complain, just trying to learn what I need to do in order to get listed.

Keyword stuffing in titles and descriptions is against the ODP guidelines but may have slipped through. Eventually it will be corrected or deleted. There is an area to report such things and it is usually appreciated when a person points that out and it is legitimate.
As for getting listed, content is king but if you are a "brick and mortar" shop, (have a physical location), you can usually get listed in the regional area of the directory under the town where your shop is physically located. Content still counts though. :)