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ukgimp

8:07 am on Sep 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have a site that now appears in the search but not the directory, so no pr from it at the moment. The category DIR says last update April.

Is there a cycle to this?

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topr8

8:11 am on Sep 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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this happened to me with the last site i got in,

the site was found using the directory search but wasn't listed for a couple of months, and then in the last 2/3 weeks it appeared in the directory too.

jbinbpt

8:35 am on Sep 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ditto .... A site that shows up as being in a category doesn’t show in the listings. It is very difficult to explain to the customers.

tschild

8:59 am on Sep 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For a definitive check you could always download the RDF file (content.rdf.u8.gz) and grep for the URL. The RDF gets generated weekly now.

tombola

11:21 am on Sep 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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download the RDF file (content.rdf.u8.gz) and grep for the URL

Keep in mind that this is a huge file ;-)

The last time I downloaded that dump was in March and it was then 224 MB (1.15 GB unzipped!).
Needless to say you need some programs to split this file in manageable chunks.

steveb

11:49 am on Sep 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Scroll down the board. The public pages are updating in fits and starts now due to a server upgrade. There is nothing to do about it. All the servers will be in sync whenever they get in sync.

willybfriendly

2:52 pm on Sep 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Took about month for a site of mine to move from the search to the category listing. See [webmasterworld.com...] for some discussion on the subject.

WBF

hutcheson

7:27 pm on Sep 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Update on the Update:

Updated category pages are appearing intermittently on the public servers -- from one page I was editing earlier I can now see "Last update: 14:15 PT, Thursday, September 4, 2003"

Note that there are now multiple public servers, so you (and googlebot) may see current pages one moment, and months-old pages the next. I don't know how long this stage of the process will last.

killroy

10:18 pm on Sep 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For My Category:
Last update: 20:48 PT, Wednesday, July 9, 2003
:(
Same thing, search shows, but not in category.

So in other words there is no idea about any kind of time frame?

SN

hutcheson

11:55 pm on Sep 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I believe this is currently the top-priority major ODP issue for the ODP technical staff.

Emergency-priority ODP issues, and non-ODP issues, may intrude on whatever work needs to be done on this.

hutcheson

12:42 am on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The official word, fresh from Mount Sinai:

"All three frontend servers have now been updated. Their data should never be more than a week out of date, compared to editors.dmoz.org. Pages will normally be refreshed when they're more than four days old."

My Targum claims the new process also automatically handles the various "official mirrors."

Problems? Exceptions? Report them in the public ODP Bugs and Features forum, or (a more chancy approach) sticky-mail any frequent visitor who is an ODP editor here.

killroy

12:00 pm on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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O, my site shows in seraches on dmoz.org and editors.dmoz.org.

the category date on dmoz.org is:
Last update: 20:48 PT, Wednesday, July 9, 2003

the category date on editors.dmoz.org is:
Last update: 12:21 PT, Tuesday, August 26, 2003

but the page shows in neither one. It's been coming up in the searches long before the 26th of August.

When will the searches move to the categories?

SN

hutcheson

4:07 pm on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Searches won't ever move to categories.

Search indexes will be built, all at once, just like they always have been, from the RDF, which is cut weekly, all at once, from the working database. The RDF is always at least 3-10 days out of date.

Categories on the public pages are built "on the fly" from the working database, base on this new scheme. They are never supposed to be more than four days out of date. (The curious coincidence of the times involved may lead to the theory that they are built from the RDF; that theory I can confidently deny, since this week I have seen some public pages that were only minutes out of date.)

killroy

4:20 pm on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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But that cannot be true, because it should mean my site should have apeared in the category 4-10 days after it entered the index, but it never has shown.

SN

windharp

6:09 pm on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As you will have noticed reading all the threads in here, there where (and still are for some categoires) technical problems with updating the public HTML-server.