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Who edits a particular ODP category?

or "my category has no editor - what do I do?"

     
12:36 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is a very common question that comes up in this forum, so I have put together some useful information to refer people to.

Every category is edited, but not every category has its own dedicated editor. Any category can be edited by someone higher up that category tree, or by an editall or meta editor. So no category is without an editor.

Having a listed editor is not necessarily better than not having one. In small categories, a listed editor is often a relatively new and inexperienced editor. Editors of smaller categories with low submission rates may only edit relatively infrequently, whereas most experienced and senior editors probably log in most days and often edit much faster. However, they have a larger category space to look after.

Example category:

Business/Industries/Widgets/Blue

Who can edit in it?

1) Any editor listed at the bottom of the Business/Industries/Widgets/Blue category.

2) Any editor listed in a higher category, i.e. at the bottom of the Business category, the Business/Industries category or the Business/Industries/Widgets category.

3) Any senior editor with editall or meta permissions. These permissions allow the editor to edit in any category anywhere in the ODP.

What should I do if my submission hasn't been listed yet?

You are welcome to contact the listed editor, or if there isn't one, a listed editor in the next category up. However, this will not get your particular submission preferential treatment over others - it will only highlight that particular unreviewed queue as being worthy of assessment for editing priority. Be scrupulously polite and do not offer any kind of bribe to the editor - this is likely to have a highly negative effect on the likelihood of your site being listed, either now or in the future. Don't expect a reply from the editor. Replying to submitters is discouraged by more experienced editors, who have first hand experience of e-mail spam attacks etc. from disgruntled submitters. Don't take it personally that you didn't get a reply - it's standard practice and for very good reasons.

Resource Zone

If you have waited for at least a month since submitting then you are welcome to visit the Resource Zone where you can post a message in the Site Submission Status forum - a friendly editor will tell you whether you are in the queue and approximately how long it is, or if you have been rejected and why. You can check back in Resource Zone on a monthly basis.

You can also visit Resource Zone to get guidance on submitting to the right category, whether you're entitled to both a topical and regional listing and how to go about applying to be an editor.

Do...

a) Check the guidelines at [dmoz.org...] to make sure that you have submitted to the right category, your site qualifies for a listing and that you have written a title and description that conforms.

b) Check the category description where you submitted for guidance on the eligibility criteria for that particular category.

c) Submit the site to the best category based on the category title, description and the sites already listed there, not on the basis of whether or not there's a listed editor.

Don't...

a) Resubmit your site to the same category every few weeks - a new submission overwrites the old one with a new date. If the editor sorts submissions by date then you're only moving yourself to the bottom of the queue. Check in Resource Zone after a month that your site is in the queue then you just have to wait.

b) Submit your site to the next category up with a listed editor - the editor will only have to move it down to the appropriate category which takes longer and annoys the editor. Any editor of a category with multiple subcategories usually routinely checks the unreviewed queues for each subcategory.

c) Submit your site to lots of different categories - this just makes you look like a spammer. Find the one category that best fits your site and apply for a listing there. The major exception to this rule is if your site qualifies for both a topical and a regional listing.

d) E-mail staff@dmoz.org - they get a phenomenal amount of e-mail and the chances of your query getting any attention at all are infinitesimally small. Staff@dmoz.org aren't concerned with individual gripes about sites taking a long time to list - their focus is on the overall performance of the directory and there are very few staff members with a lot of work to do between them.

[edited by: Laisha at 5:06 pm (utc) on April 29, 2003]
[edit reason] Please read the guidelines re: RZ [/edit]

1:11 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>You are welcome to contact the listed editor, or if there isn't one, a listed editor in the next category up. However, this will not get your particular submission preferential treatment over others - it will only highlight that particular unreviewed queue as being worthy of assessment for editing priority.

Sounds like a strategy that likely would irritate editors more than be effective. I'd say only contact the editor in cases like an innocent site being replaced with a porn one. Or, perhaps a seriously inappropriate submission being added by mistake rather than deleted from unreviewed, etc.

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Good post, with some very good points in there.

Check the guidelines at [dmoz.org...] to make sure that you have submitted to the right category, your site qualifies for a listing and that you have written a title and description that conforms.

If only they would do this more often :)

Craig

2:53 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like a strategy that likely would irritate editors more than be effective.

Sometimes ya get a response and/or action, sometimes not. The worst an editor is likely to do is just ignore the email. It helps to provide the full details, where and when the site was submitted and what site it was. Just stay cool and be patient and polite.

If the goal is to get something listed that probably doesn't meet the guidelines, then it might irritate the editor as opposed to bringing about any positive results.

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>>What should I do if my submission hasn't been listed yet?

The bottom line is that you cannot do anything to expedite inclusion in DMOZ.

ResourceZone can/will only tell you if it is still in the queue. They can/will not give you an fast submission route. In other words an editor checks you are in the queue, but leaves it there to be dealt with in the normal way

Emailing an editor is unlikely to get a reply, as explained here.

So you end up waiting, and waiting... but as is always pointed out, it is free and the editors are volunteers.

11:52 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One more point:

If you go back to ask for an update at a later date, be sure to reuse the old thread again. Bookmark your thread the first time you start it, making it easier to return to it. Old threads get moved to the top of the posting list as soon as new messages are put into them.

 

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