Dmoz Editors - "World"

Are they FAST in your country?

[Nick_W]

Hi all,

I live in Denmark and I find that when I submit a site to the World > Dansk categories (even those without editors) I think in terms of how many HOURS it will take to be listed, not months.

I submitted a site yesterday at around 10:30pm and checked the cat at just gone midnight: Included! ;) - This is not the first time either, far from it....

My hat comes off to these editors, they're clearly on the case.

Is this the same in other smaller countries, or even US regional cat's?

Nick

[skibum]

There are pockets like that all over the place. Sometimes even in commercial categories the listings times aren't very long, but usually measured at least in days, not hours.

[windharp]

I just had a look and agree that the dansk directory seems to be having very little unreviewed indeed. Thats not necessarily the same for other "small" (in terms of listed sites) countries. It depends on the usual factors:

1) How many submissions are there
2) How many spam is submitted
3) How many editors are available

[victor]

I edit a regional category. I check it every 2 to 3 days, as does at least one other editor. So delays for correctly submitted sites are minimal.

However, sometimes one appears that has been routed around several other editors first because it was submitted to an inappropriate category. I might list it a day after I first see it - but that may months after the initial submission.

I also have several sites that sit in unreviewed because they are under construction. I'll check those once a month or so to see if there is any progress. The owners of those sites might be wondering why they haven't been listed, or why this cat is so slow.

[rfgdxm1]

I just checked the Dansk branch. Only 30,483 sites listed. I have no easy way of checking the total number of editors, but it looks like about a couple dozen. If spam is low in the Dansk branch, and new submissions aren't coming in that fast, with that many editors I'd expect quick turnaround if the editors are reasonably active. My guess why it only took hours in your case was you submitted in cat where there was no editor, and no editor up the branch all the way to the top. There are 5 editors listed at the top. In this case, since there is no need to wait and give time for your submission to get reviewed, any of these 5 editors at top can handle it. If spam and submissions are low, and the editors at top tend to log in daily, one day turnaround doesn't surprise me.

As someone stated before, there are a lot of pockets in the ODP like this. As an ODP editor my cat space is over 5,000 listed sites. There are about 15 lower editors, and there are only 9 greens which I am ignoring and waiting for the lower editors to handle. While there are over a million greens at the moment, there is cat space at the ODP that have few greens.

[Nick_W]

What's a green?

Nick

[quiet_man]

"green" = unreviewed

[cornwall]

It's one of the drawbacks of a volunteer system, particularly where resources are stretched, that personel cannot be moved to places where they are needed.

Overall it's not really a question of one category being good or bad in terms of listing time, its the fact that there are one million unreviewed (unless they have all been zapped recently) which means that one average the wait for listing is long!

[steveb]

"which means that one average the wait for listing is long!"

Actually it doesn't mean that necessarily at all. If you submit a dozen sites, and eleven get listed in one day and one takes a year to get listed, that's an average of a month, and a completely meaningless number.

The "average" time is skewed both by categories looked at every day, and those essentially never looked at.

[Visit Thailand]

Do you not get the we could not determine your IP address problem when submit?

I just tried submitting a page and the page just hung.

[steveb]

Thailand I thought this question was answered on one of these dorums some time back, with it having to do with your ISP. (Not "your" but some people's.) There is also a resource-zone.com thread about it, but I haven't read it since it doesn't effect me.

[rfgdxm1]

>It's one of the drawbacks of a volunteer system, particularly where resources are stretched, that personel cannot be moved to places where they are needed.

Technically this is doable. Just give everyone editall privs. However, for various reasons the ODP will never do that, abuse potential being the most obvious. And even if everyone had editall privs, the problem would be lots of editors have no interest in editing outside of their areas of interest. The ODP has both the problem not enough competent people apply as editor, and often they end up applying in an area with few greens. Dunno if this problem is solvable, and it definitely is a long term concern for the ODP.

[fashezee]

How do I know if my editor has not died?
It's been over 4 weeks, and still no listing?

[rfgdxm1]

Ask over at [resource-zone.com...] fashezee. In a lot of areas of the ODP, a site sitting in the queue for 4 weeks is normal. Many areas of the ODP are have a backlog of more than a year.

[GeorgeGG]

I'm happy,
Submitted my site Dec, 2001 - about 14 days
Submitted another page, Dec 2002 - 7 days
Submitted another page, Jan 2003 - 14 days
Submitted another page, Jan 2003, looked at that day
and cat was changed, 5 days.

Does anybody check their logs to see if an editor has visited?

GeorgeGG

[quiet_man]

>>Does anybody check their logs to see if an editor has visited?<<

Just because you don't see a referral from the Dmoz 'editor dashboard', it doesn't mean an editor hasn't visited. Personally when editing I always have two browser windows open and cut'n'paste the URL from the dashboard to the second window - I find editing is too slow any other way.

[Tor]

Nick_W:

Is this the same in other smaller countries, or even US regional cat's?

I live in Norway and my experience is that it normally take about 1-2 weeks to get a new site into the ODP database. That`s not too bad either?