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grobe

9:48 am on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I want to change my DMOZ URL from www.my-isp/my-page to www.my-domain. How do you do this? [There is a form on the DMOZ site to update a URL which I have filled out a couple times (a month ago and a couple weeks ago) but the URL doesn't get changed.]

cornwall

10:00 am on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Grobe

Try going to Resource-Zone.com and asking there in the appropriate forum.

Its run by DMOZ editors and designed for you to be able to ask the specific question of "whats happening to my submission?"

<added edit> I did not put the link to resource-zone in as the Moderator is always deactivating my links to it ;) </edit>

ukgimp

10:00 am on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hello Grobe

Welcome to WebmasterWorld

It depends how busy the editor for the category in which your site is listed. If you look at the bottom it will say whether there is an editor. If you have submitted the change you will just have to wait until it is reviewed. Be careful not to bombard them with emails!

You could try moving up one category and contacting that editor.

Another option would be to go to resource zone
and ask the question about its progress. If one of the nice volunteers takes pity on you they may let you know about its progress.

Cheers and good luck

victor

10:02 am on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You ae doing the right thing, but DMOZ is a volunteer-run organization and (cutting short a lot of discssion on these forums) the volunteer editors aren't always as fast as you'd like.

Two steps to try:

1. Email the editor for the category. If there's no name, move up the tree until you find one.

2. Ask at: Resource Zone

jimnoble

11:09 am on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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[dmoz.org...] states that ODP doesn't list redirects. If www.my-domain immediately redirects to www.my-isp/my-page, ODP will (well, should) list the latter.

cornwall

12:07 pm on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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to change my DMOZ URL from www.my-isp/my-page to www.my-domain.

ODP doesn't list redirects. If www.my-domain immediately redirects to www.my-isp/my-page

That's a good point, Grobe does not make it clear if a redirect is involved or not. Grobe needs to accept that a change will not be made if it is merely a redirect.

However if it not a redirect and www.my-domain.com is the final site, then resource-zone.com should be able to give an answer on the state of the submission.

hutcheson

6:08 pm on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If the old URL works, the editor probably won't (and certainly SHOULDN'T) make the requested change.

The reason is to prevent site hijackers from copying the entire site to somewhere else, then changing the URL to their site. (Yes, this has been attempted....you guys are in the same business with some former used car salesmen who got fired for being too sleazy...)

If you really want the change made, and it isn't a redirect, and the site is still up at the old location (or perhaps, you have two URLs pointing to the same old location, which is not necessarily the same as a redirect) THEN:

Make sure you post a note on the home page at the OLD location: "We've moved!" or "We're Moving: please bookmark our new URL: xxx." And make SURE that all the internal links are relative (or if you have a fetish for making life difficult for yourself and use absolute links, make sure they point to locations at the NEW address. Also make sure your banner page, etc., contains the new URL and not the old URL.

And then post the update URL request. The editor will (eventually: the "we're all volunteers" speech has already been given in the thread) see the request, look at the OLD site to make sure it's legitimate, and, if the site title, links, banner, whatever, are consistent with the new URL (or, of course, if the old URL no longer works) should make the change.

We don't apologize for all that checking. It's for your protection.

grobe

8:22 pm on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Previously I had my site at my-isp/my-page (free) and got it listed at DMOZ. 6 weeks ago I got my own domain (spending the big bucks--under $5 a month). Right now all I have at my-isp/my-domain is a statement "The site has moved to mydomain. Click here to go there" In terms of search sites when you search for me at Google (and the sites it supplies results to) my-isp/my-page is listed first and mydomain is listed second. At Altavista, MSN, Lyco, Alltheweb my-isp/mypage is listed first; mydomain is not listed at all. At DMOZ the problem is now obvious: I am in category
Shopping: A: B: C :D Shopping (120,000 listings) lists several editors. There is no mention of editors at A and B. Both C and D say Editor needed for this category. So the Shopping editors probably have a massive backlog. Suggestions? Should I email a
Shopping editor?...Or just forget about it and maybe they will
get to it in a few months. Any suggestions for having mydomain searched by these other search engines (other than paying)?
Thanks.

rfgdxm1

8:56 pm on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>The reason is to prevent site hijackers from copying the entire site to somewhere else, then changing the URL to their site. (Yes, this has been attempted....you guys are in the same business with some former used car salesmen who got fired for being too sleazy...)

EXCELLENT point, hutcheson. The DMOZ should include this specific situation on the instructions for editors. I hadn't thought about this possibility. However, if the site was up at both places I likely would have rejected the change because of the fact these are mirror sites. Leave the original listing as is, and ignore the mirror.

The ODP definitely should have a tips page to help editors become more "abuse savvy" about possible submissions. There are other possible abuse scenarios that I know of that aren't documented, but I investigate to see whether this might be going on.

rfgdxm1

9:03 pm on Jan 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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grobe, if you have at the old URL a "The site has moved to mydomain. Click here to go there", all the search engines should eventually find the new URL from that. You should use the "Update URL" link in the ODP cat you are listed in. The problem you have is that the time it may take to update your site to the new URL ranges from several days to several years depending on how backlogged things are where you are listed. :(