Zeal

[paff3]

Can i use Zeal to add my site to looksmart,when i have popups and textlinks in my site.I didnt understood it well

Thanks

[Quinn]

You can use it to add your site to looksmart if it is not commercial. I can't imagine text links being a problem, but commercial pop up would be grounds for exclusion.

[bether2]

Paff3,

If the page that you're submitting has sufficient non-commercial content, the pop-ups (or other ads) won't necessarily disqualify you.

Depends on what Editor or Zealot reviews the submitted site. Most will allow a site with pop-ups as long as the non-commercial content outweighs the ads - which is obviously a personal call on the part of the Editor or Zealot.

If your site is commercial, you are allowed to submit subpages that have non-commercial content (if you have any).

Beth

[Crazy_Fool]

>>If your site is commercial, you are allowed to submit
>>subpages that have non-commercial content (if you have
>>any).

that's something i never realised, thanks beth.
all i need now is to tidy up the non-commercial content and get someone to add some sites for me ....

[martinibuster]

subpages that have non-commercial content

The downside of attempting to add non-commercial deep link content is if a LookSmart Editor/Zeal Editor disagrees with you. Then you, the Zealot, receive negative points.

Ouch!

[steveb]

It's not that simple. If www.mysite.com is listed in looksmart, you can't submit www.mysite.com/widgets.html to Zeal. The software won't let you, the domain is blocked.

[martinibuster]

Hmm... I assumed from the original post that this person's site wasn't already in LookSmart.

If it's not already in LookSmart, and you try to deeplink "non-commercial" content, you may get rebuffed, and lose zeal points.

From my observations, it seems that the existing non-commercial deeplinks are generally to noteworthy magazine articles.

steveb: You may be correct, that if the web site is already in LookSmart, unless you are a LookSmart editor (i.e. you work for LookSmart in San Francisco), you're probably not going to be able to manipulate it.

I have never tried to manipulate a paid or grandfathered commercial site, so I can't speak with certainty and from experience about manipulating one.

[skibum]

Getting negative points is no big deal. If one nick goes down the tubes from making an honest effort to put non-commercial pages in ya just get another one.

[rfgdxm1]

Check out this link where this is discussed:

[webmasterworld.com...]

[daamsie]

It's not that simple. If www.mysite.com is listed in looksmart, you can't submit www.mysite.com/widgets.html to Zeal. The software won't let you, the domain is blocked.

Could you please clarify this? I have never noticed this being a problem and have done so with numerous sites.. There's some sites in Zeal with dozens or more pages listed in different or the same categories.. Is this only true for non-commercial content?

[rfgdxm1]

I think it is true that if it is a paid Looksmart listing, deep linked content isn't allowed by the software. However, it may be possible for a site owner to appeal this if the deep linked content was suitable for a LS listing. I'd think paying customers would have the most possible influence at LS.

[skibum]

If you have only unpaid non-commercial listings in Zeal, then there should be no problem adding pages. Some informational sites have hundreds of pages listed in Zeal for free.

We've always triggered the blocked submission when we tried to submit deep links of sites we previously paid Looksmart for.

[steveb]

What skibum said.

If you have a Looksmart listing you are blocked from adding deeplinks, except via essentially begging a Looksmart editor to add them via using their personal editor message boards.

[paff3]

rfgdxm1

Would this site be accepted <snip>

[edited by: NFFC at 8:27 pm (utc) on Jan. 10, 2003]
[edit reason] No site reviews please [/edit]

[rfgdxm1]

>Would this site be accepted <snip>
Looks non-commercial, so yes.

[edited by: NFFC at 8:27 pm (utc) on Jan. 10, 2003]

[paff3]

So the popup doesnt matter because its making me money.

[paff3]

i mean doesnt that matter that im making money with my site

[georgeek]

From the Zeal Guidlines

If the primary purpose of a site is to generate revenue or promote the sale of goods or services online or offline, then it is considered commercial.

[rfgdxm1]

Right. For example, most free hosts have advertising, and many sites on such are listed. The issue is what is the primary purpose of the site. This sometimes is a judgement call.

[skibum]

Also, the homepage of what they consider a "media" site is considered commercial. If put up an online magazine or publication, it will be necessary to pay if you want the homepage listed, so naturally the sensible thing to do is to just submit a bunch of internal pages with articles or whatever.

The homepage of say clickz would be considered commercial but the individual articles that had appropriate categories could be listed.