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The thing that stood out to me was how the article neglected any mention of how stale the listings are in WiseNut's database, or how long it had been before it seemed that they had updated anything. Read a few of the posts here, and you'll see why WiseNut has not gained much (if any) ground with 'joe user'.
And it's important to note that WiseNut seems to have built it's entire database by meta crawling other engines...mentioned many times here, for a long time now, but not 'reported' in main stream publications...or at least ignored.
Take a look at this:
[wisenut.com...]
Is it some kind of ranking/relevancy measure?
cheers
p.s. Re: seeing links to search results from other search engines only means that wisenut indexes dynamic web pages. google also does this.
Jeremy Goodrich
...or how long it had been before it seemed that they had updated anything...
Here is the answer : [webmasterworld.com...]
Yes, Google does that - but from what I've seen, not intentionally. From the various posts about it here (and somebody else pointed it out first) WiseNut may have built their entire DB (or a good portion of it) by meta crawling other engines....
What exactly is the value of listing another engines SERP as a result for a keyword search? It only leads the surfer in a confused circle...and doesn't actually give them a result which is what they want (I think).
[google.com...]
Wisenut's index currently consists of just over 900 million documents, indexed within the past 60 days
Wisenut miss this one (10 may in title)
felt like i was searching on the wayback machine. heh.
I even use them for searching 10% of the time - I'd use them more if two things happened:
If they would just fix those two things...then I'd love 'em, and bow down to the next king in the SE world...
However, if they really want to pick up the market share where they can, I dont' see them growing past being a 2nd teir nobody who webmasters and SEO's consider a neat thing, but really dont' use much.
And honestly, I don't particularly care where they got their results, meta or not. Pretty clever, but if they used another source, like the domain registration database, etc. then they would have a lot more stuff in their db ...and perhaps could bring it up to par with Google.
They increase the speed of getting results back to me
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WiseGuide categories for "news" [what's WiseGuide?] Results: 100,028,930 documents found 50 results - 1 second... comparable
...and perhaps could bring it up to par with Google.
They don't have the money...
meta crawling other engines...
As long as they are hitting the other engines for results, why not hit the url as well and display the 'Location:'
sad
Damn it.. They are still using that dumb monacled bald bloke for a logo. If LS are in charge now you would hope they could have rebranded WiseNut with something... fresher?
Seems shallow I know but I get put off by that kind of thing.... If you want people to regularly use your product, you gotta make your brand attractive to everyone. Perhaps its just me? I'm not that keen on AskJeeves, or Pringles come to that.
Takes more than speed and fresh relevent data to win over mr and mrs public. Does anyone know WiseNut exists except us?
Shutting up...
At least one of mine is listed #3 for one of the most competetive keys there is so musnt grumble... No bleedin' traffic from it though...
z6
Not much to say other than echo weblamer's comment. A page that I split up in late April or early May is still there :(
I also hate the bald man logo!
I will wait and make a informed judgement after the first refresh which will be Nove 1.......
Yes, the bald man logo is a bit off the wall. I think WiseNut should assure, then, that Hair Club for Men always ranks #1 for "baldness treatment." A nice way to compensate. ;)
[double-take.co.uk...]
[wisenut.com...]
The results for our sites were all pretty much up to date. I had been wondering why Looksmart had suddenly camped itself in the logs !
Impressive, have they said how they plan to move forward?
Just make sure you've got in bound links, and they'll find you eventually. I never submitted anything, but eventually, they found most of my stuff :)
Speed - they need to make it faster.
The bald guy logo - Well, I wasn't going to bring this one up, but come on - what is this supposed to mean / say / etc? I'm just a bit confused as far as what they were thinking with this one.
Josk: that other image doesn't really look the same
Good branding
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Better relevance (I reckon this is coming soon)
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Positive user feedback
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Popularity
I may be over-simplifying but look at Google. They are successful exactly because of Google's simplicity... well at least from the point of view of the user.
I'm sure anybody with the right technical ability and financial backing could put a decent search engine together, but you also need vision and creative ability to make it popular.
Doesnt matter how much you advertise a product, to make it successful, its gotta be a strong product in itself. Just like any of our sites, its got to be attractive and be valuable to the visitor, thats what keeps people coming back.
z6
