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The Essential Tools for SQL

Using SQL without the extra fluff ....ex owner of F/Page

         

brotherhood of LAN

11:51 pm on Apr 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Here is the situation, Im looking for the smoothest transition to my destination :)

Im a relative newbie in using ASP and SQL, and have been making web pages using office XP, which mainly involves making the front end on Frontpage and the back end on microsoft access. When using a database with FP, you have your set amount of options blah blah about connecting to a database etc. This involves the use of frontpage extensions

I do not want to be relying on frontpage extensions

Basically, my goal is to use only the information required to access a db, as opposed to using all the junk that MS products create

So I have acquired a book "learn SQL in three days" which seems pretty handy. It has stuff on a CD included like "SQL talk".

Im wondering if such software would be an adequate replacement from my previous setup.

i.e. if you are setting up a db from scratch, what are the minimum tools needed? As Im sure some of you understand, the MS products I am using give you an idea of whats involved, but do not spell it out as such that I could create an accessable db from scratch

To give you an idea of what Im looking for, one db i use is simple, its a dictionary. You search for a term, and if the term matches, its displayed along with a description.

So instead of using MS products, I want to be reduced to using notepad.....or the bare requirements of setting up web pages that can successfully access/edit a database

Its a long road to go down....Im looking for a good send off here with some tips/assistance

Info on this would be great, of google update proportions ;)

Richard

txbakers

1:59 am on Apr 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Rich, from a former beginner who now can just use a text editor here's my free advice:

Download a free copy of Dreamweaver ultraDev and take the tutorial. Use it for 30 days to build your first ASP pages.

Then, when it expires, go through the generated code and see what is really needed. Dreamweaver tends to be very precise - overly so in some instances - but you'll be able to figure it out.

As for creating the DB through SQL, that's not a good idea in a web interface.

A free DB is mySQL and you can get the GUI mySQL-Front which will show you the SQL commands while you GUI.

Beyond that, take a look at:
[w3schools.com...]
for an excellent SQL tutorial.

But for a beginner, Dreamweaver will lay a solid foundation of good techniques. Within a short time you won't need it to generate the code for you.

brotherhood of LAN

2:44 am on Apr 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have dreamweaver on a dusty PC over in the corner :)

thanks tx for the pointer, i want to learn the techniques as you say, without the fluff of frontpage.

the ASP tutorial, great. Learning the syntax of SQL is hand in hand really isnt it? So ill be looking up on both, with the help of WMW

Cheers!

korkus2000

3:05 pm on Apr 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The resource that got me started was asp101.com. They have a lot of sample scripts and articles about everything asp.

Like txbakers said w3schools.com is a great resource too. If you are trying to start learning now I would consider learning .net. Classic asp tutorials are going the way of the dinosuar.

I suggest you start using homesite for your editor. It will help kick frontpage. Notepad offers nothing. Homesite is a wonderful coding app.

I would suggest using access while you learn. Most asp samples use it. You can move on when you learn the basics. Access is a very simple database and it sounds like you already have it.