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Is there any way to improve PageRank when nobody wants to exchange a link?
I managed to get people to link to my site before it was even listed in Google. Anyone concerned only with PR is sadly shortsighted.
We have created numerous sites using this method and no joking we have had lots and lots of PR3/4/5's link because our content is good and we ask nicely. We have PR6's and our biggest hit was a front page link on one of the major sports events in the world.....we even offered to pay and they refused. All because the content was good and we had lots of it. Plus we asked nicely and we always try to help anyone who helps us.
That is all we do, admittedly on huge scale.
I'd love to live on a planet like yours
Shurlee, I'd guess that 90% of the sites on the web never requested a link, but many have thousands of links. How? Typically, they offer information that people find useful and think their visitors will find useful.
I'd agree that organic link growth is a lot slower than a highly organized campaign, but if your site has lots of great content, or even better, great tools or downloads, you'll steadily accumulate links from all kinds of sites.
Now if you have a 5 page affiliate site with no content or some regurgitated pages, you probably won't get many links by just being out there.
I think the important time to seek out links is when a site is launched. Some good early links can jumpstart traffic, and as the site gets more visitors it will start to collect links on its own.
Roughly one-third of the links to my largest site are "organic"; that is, I didn't submit or request a link. They presumably found me via SERPS, liked what they saw, and linked. The remainder are mostly directories, either DMOZ and it's many clones, or various niche / not-so-niche ones.
I've only ever requested one link from a site, and the webmaster apparently liked what he saw enough to give me three SE-indexable links, all on PR5 pages, even though my site shows a PR0 in the Google Toolbar.
It happens, all sarcasm aside. You just have to be realistic with regards to the quality and nature of your site.
From other threads some of the way to find link partners are :-
"Add a link" + "your keyword(s)"
"Add a site" + "your keyword(s)"
"Add URL" + "your keyword(s)"
"Add an URL" + "your keyword(s)"
"Submit a link" + "your keyword(s)"
"Submit a site" + "your keyword(s)"
"Submit URL" + "your keyword(s)"
"Submit an URL" + "your keyword(s)"
"Suggest a link" + "your keyword(s)"
"Suggest a site" + "your keywords(s)"
"Suggest URL" + "your keyword(s)"
"Suggest an URL" + "your keyword(s)"
"Your Region" + "Add url"
"your keywords" + "directory"
"your keywords" + "directories"
keyword add site
"your industry" +add url, directories, etc...
"related sites" + your keyword
"related urls" + your keyword
If you add content then try and use these queries :-
and after you have sufficient links and Content you can try these :-
You have to be patient and some of the sites found this way will definitely link back if they like your content. Just remember that there are many engines and by using permutations and combinations you can find many link partners.
Would have to agree Organic links are the best. HTH :)
Thanks by advance
mil2k: Thanks for your post! It gives me some hope :). I will get links that maybe are unindexed, but from high PR sites. As s said in one of my favourite books:
from the ashes a fire shall be woken
from the shadows a light shall spring
Thanks for all to all of you!
[edited by: Herenvardo at 2:48 pm (utc) on July 28, 2003]
I know your feeling. Have done linkdevelopment work for others. Now I make it a rule and have my own terms and conditions Regarding link exchange development work. Abt not linking to sites with PR less than 4 I can only say ignorance is a bliss! Hope they see the light at the end of tunnel. Nothing much you can do. Best of luck.
One of the most important thing is the management of links on your site. Links page are Passe IMHO.
1. NO LINK FARMS.
2. NO FFA WEBSITES.
3. 100% GENIUNE HTML Links.
4. NO Search Engine Cloakers.
5. No Hidden Links.
Also try to get links from people / pages who do not have A LOT OF OUTBOUND links.
Hope this helps you get some nice PR.
[edited by: Woz at 1:09 am (utc) on July 31, 2003]
[edit reason] No Sigs Please, TOS#13 [/edit]
One thing that's true: the perception of the world at large is usually well behind reality. Hence, savvy WebmasterWorld members were looking at PR long before most site owners knew what it was. Now, people like Herenvardo's client are imposing PR demands just as the toolbar has become an unreliable indicator of real PR and/or penalty status.
Add the site to your profile URL!
Go to other forums and do the same.
Make a habit of posting a couple of posts a day, and starting 1 thread. With say 5 forums that's 15 posts/day, after a month that 450 posts and at least 5 to a couple of hundred good quality (PR) links.
That will give a PR4 (or better) then you can develop according to the clients instructions.
After developing a number of links (so the site can stand on it's own) - turn the profiles back to you. :)
Remember outsourcing work is about innovation and solutions not "I can't"! ;)