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How much demand is there for high PR links?

Considering starting "link brokerage" service...

         

Storyteller

3:43 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm considering starting a brokerage service helping people to get links from high PR Russian websites. I'm wondering how much people will be willing to pay to get a link from a site with, say, PR7?

From what I know, such activity is perfectly legal. If anyone is interested to partner on this one, please sticky me.

petertdavis

3:55 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd consider paying for a text ad from a site that was popular enough to get a high PR value. The ad would be much more valuable to me, though, if the site had traffic that I'd want to target with my ad campaign. Why just Russian sites?

topr8

8:04 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm considering starting a brokerage service helping people to get links from high PR Russian websites. I'm wondering how much people will be willing to pay to get a link from a site with, say, PR7?

if you are in any way perceived to be selling pagerank ... then hello pr 0!

research the whole SearchKing thing from last year.

NeedScripts

8:35 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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if you are in any way perceived to be selling pagerank ... then hello pr 0!

Well I would not bet my money on that.. cuz I know of a site that is usually PR 8 and PR 9 (it kinda changes every update cuz of link from one major site)... and they are *selling* Static text link using keyword.. and the most interesting things are::

1) These (yeah there are about 8 links) no way related to the topic of their site.
2) These links are kinda almost hidden cuz of the layout of the site

3) Cost of link from just the main page is US$ 4500 + per month (lol... I had to contact them to see how much does PR 8 can pull in... just think about it 4.5k x 8 links = that is US$ 36,000.00 just for links from home page... now if you count all the links on whole site.. @#$@#^#^*&#^%!@#^%&#%^)_&*(&#$ )

Also, I kinda hate to say.. but I don't think I would feel comfertable just complaining against them.. or posting their name in the board of by pm... :(

Google do something ... rich guys are getting richer...

NS

[edited by: NeedScripts at 9:07 am (utc) on July 4, 2003]

teeceo

8:59 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How much demand you ask! why just look at the top 19 affiliates for any profuct and you will have your answer.

topr8

9:03 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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naturally i'm sure lots of people do it and of course most links from high pr pages are totally legit just as buying advertising space is totally legit.

but its about being noticed, if you start advertising that you are selling pr, then you are waving a big red flag.

Shak

9:04 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If its perfectly legal, then maybe a phone call to Google asking what the going rate is , along with a list of your clients would give you a very good starting point...

Shak

Storyteller

9:12 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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petertdavis, because in Russia high PR links can be bought cheap. In our country few care about Google, 95% of local searches are served by domestic SE's.

topr8, I'd argue that SearchKing did very different things on a very different scale. Can you point out a site that had its PR reduced for having a bunch of unrelated text advertising or something like this? I agree that one shouldn't be advertising 'PR sales' if they want their business to last ;)

Shak, could you please explain whether you really mean it's illegal or you were just venting off?

peewhy

9:21 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google itself has unrelated text advertising doesn't it?

Shak

9:24 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Shak, could you please explain whether you really mean it's illegal or you were just venting off?

I am 100% serious, if you do not think that there is a legal problem, then call Google and pitch your business plan, that you are interested in selling PR links, and whether they have any guidelines on how it should be done...

At the end of the day, only Google can give you the BEST advice on how it should be done...

Shak

trillianjedi

9:40 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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am 100% serious, if you do not think that there is a legal problem

There is no legal problem or issue in selling a link. That's called advertising.

Google may consider it to be unethical if it's apparent that the sole purpose of the transaction, or fundamental purpose of it, is an attempt to manipulate the SERPS.

TJ

Chris_R

9:46 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm considering starting a brokerage service helping people to get links from high PR Russian websites.

I think this is a typo. I think you meant to say:

"I am thinking about starting a brokerage service selling text advertising on some high quality Russsian websites."

topr8

10:17 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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lol chris_r!

here from the google advice to webmasters ...

Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. [google.com]

while it is not illegal to buy a link for the purposes of pr, (google do not make LAWS) they are perfectly entitled to penalise people who they believe are manipulating THEIR system.

i believe that with this and all other seo practices that are in the grey area or beyond, remember this is not a game, so be aware of the possible negative consiquences of your actions - that way you can make an informed decision.

mil2k

10:35 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"I am thinking about starting a brokerage service selling text advertising on some high quality Russsian websites."

Yes! That sounds much better ;). Never mention PR and you will steer clear of controversy. Some other synonyms you can use are :- Text links , Paid inclusions, Advertisement from high traffic site...

NeedScripts

11:25 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well Text Link is not same as Keyword Rich Static Link

Chris_R

11:48 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well Text Link is not same as Keyword Rich Static Link

Yes - I almost forgot - one should add:

"These High Quality Russian websites are looking for long term partners to use so they don't have to bother with using dynamic scripts or rotating banner programs"

NeedScripts

11:53 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well static links would generally cost more.. not cuz they will pass PR Value.. but cuz it requires *lot* of work to put them on every page or most important page.

NS