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Web Rings

How do they differ from link exchanges

         

davey

7:28 pm on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can anyone answer the above question? Do people in general think link exchanges are worthwhile or is it better to get links to sites manually by contacting webmasters. How would I link to sites I agree to link to, just have a designated links page and list them, including any text they have asked for? As you can see, I'm still learning!

Many thanks.

mrguy

7:55 pm on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes,

Create a resources page on your site that is seamless and part of the site.

Try to stay with-in your theme or close to it when giving links.

Check out the site carefully to make sure it has good content, does not link to bad places, and may be of use to your visitors.

Don't put much weight on their PR other than if it is a PRO or Gray. If it is good source, go ahead an link to it regardles of their PR.

It is time consuming to do it this way, but in my opinion it pays off in the end knowing your linking to a good source.

Marcia

9:09 pm on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Web rings aren't known to be good sources of traffic, and the PR benefit for the link is not to the members of the ring, but to the site hosting the ring. I've seen site that put the webring code on their homepage - several - and not only did it slow down loading time tremendously, but it drained site PR by distributing to the webring's host pages what should have rightfully been routed to their own site's internal pages - with no PR back, and little chance of quality traffic that buys.

I've surfed webrings a lot for fonts and graphics sites - free stuff and commercial - but it's common and lucrative for that - not for shopping in general. One exception *might* be crafts areas, but even there it's low on the totem pole for traffic priorities.

>>Try to stay with-in your theme or close to it when giving links.

Close - but not too close for comfort. One thing I've been starting to look closely at lately is how close - or possibly competing. In researching sites for links for design/promotion, some sites out there look like good resources either for links or to do business, but on further examination there's a strong enough or aggressive enough connection with site developers, hosts and/or promotors/ so while that site will benefit from hosting links (or ads), ultimately the major recipient of benefits will be the ones in the site building and promoting business behind the operation.

Some are OK, some are not - it depends on how it's done. Several have gotten the thumbs down recently for just that reason with what would otherwise been excellent resources.

I think complementary and close but not directly competing is close to accurate.

freejung

11:19 pm on Mar 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No matter what linking strategy you take, you should always look at the sites you link to for obvious reasons, and I think this applies equally to web rings and anything else. Check it out thoroughly. That's the whole point of using link pop as a metric, right, is that we (webmasters) are supposed to be rating other sites by our choice whether to link to them.

So if you do join a web ring, look at the other sites in it first and make sure that you want to link to them.

Web rings don't look like a very good strategy to me, though, they seem to be mostly populated by unsuccessful/small/amaturish sites that may have some place in their niche but probably don't get much traffic.

Marcia

12:52 am on Mar 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I still rely on web rings when I surf looking around at graphics and hunting down fonts and PSP tubes. I've found sites I'd never have come across any other way.

One thing I can say is that a lot of them are really nice graphics sites done by web designers with nice portfolios. A good number of them don't do promotion on the sites, so it's not a bad way to accumulate portfolio pages for the links research bookmark folder; there's some gold to be found out there that's off the usual beaten path.

I've got a whole collection of excellent sites to contact for links for one particular site - all found through researching web rings and link pages within a certain niche. I'd never have found them otherwise, and though most aren't high PR it doesn't really matter because they're just great sites and worth linking to.

In another case, I've considered setting up a web ring for a client site I promote with those of a common interest, even though it's an ecom site. The others that would be interested in joining would mostly be potential customers for the site anyway, giving two purposes for it.

The only ones I've heard of that send even a little traffic are wholesale sites in a certain niche, and that came from people in a certain industry that's generally very big on linking and webrings. Otherwise I wouldn't join a webring except for a graphics site - not for search engine or traffic purposes.

Skylo

11:30 am on Mar 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yeah I agree with mrguy and marcia.....as far as linking is concerned, put in the time and effort to do it manually. The benefits might take long to notice but it is for the better in the long run. Work at it and do it yourself is the best advise i reckon. O only one thing though. I wouldn't link to pages with less that 4 PR as I am a 6PR, but that is my opinion and we all have our own way to play this game. Keep smiling:)

Marketing Guy

11:37 am on Mar 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>I wouldn't link to pages with less that 4 PR as I am a 6PR, but that is my opinion and we all have our own way to play this game. Keep smiling

Why not?

If the sites are useful to your vistors then why not link to them?

What's more important - PR or happy visitors? ;)

Scott

davey

11:59 am on Mar 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How do you find out a site's PR? I'd like to do it with some of my competitors (and my own!)

Thanks

Marketing Guy

12:03 pm on Mar 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Download the Google toolbar:

[toolbar.google.com...]

The site you are browsing has its PR displayed on the toolbar (little green bar just right of middle).

There are also some other useful tools on the toolbar.

Scott

Mohamed_E

1:23 pm on Mar 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> The site you are browsing has its PR displayed on the toolbar (little green bar just right of middle).

To get a number from the bar put your cursor on it.

You can get slightly more precision on the rank of a page that is in the Google directory, see details on the searchnerd.com web site.

Skylo

7:01 am on Mar 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree with you scott but what I have noticed in my line of work is that 90% of the time PR has been accurate as showing a site good or bad. I mean A lot of the time a page will come up with a 2 PR and the page will literally be bad: no good content and bad design.........and so on in that fashion. So to speed things up a bit in finding links when a page is loading as soon as I see the bar I judge it.
I know this is narrow-minded but as I said before we all have our own style, good or bad.......but then again I am relatively new to this, so you could chop it down to ignorance;) Keep smiling