effect of incoming links on SE position

What does the SE use, domain or page link popularity

[heelisp]

Hi,
I understand that the no. of incoming links effects the SE ranking. I also understand that the no. of links to the site that lists yours is also important. The logic being if the site listing you is important then your must also be.
Question is when the SEs assess the link popularity of the site listing yours, do they take all links to that site, or just the links to the page that lists you.
e..g if my site is listed in www.aol.com/users/subdirectoy/mypage.htm

do they use the incoming links to that url (probably small no.) or incoming links to www.aol.com - really big no.!

[heini]

Hi heelisp
and welcome to WmW, hope youŽll like this place as much as I do!
Link popularity is a ranking concept not used by all SEs. The most important engines using it are probably Google and Altavista.
Generally the punch incoming links carry is determined by the importance of the site that links to you. So when you have a link from some unimportant free webspace site, which is hosted at a very prominent provider, this link will carry only the punch from that unimportant site. Definitely not the punch that a link from that providers homepage would carry.
Hope that helps

[Orange]

Hi, I have a related question. How does one get an accurate measure of how many external sites link to yours? On Google for example i know that you do a search for: link:mydomain.com, but the results that are returned include a whole lot of internal pages. Is there any way to exclude all internal pages??
THanks in advance

[Macguru]

Hi Orange,

I got some sites that also included some internal links. It lasted a month or 2 then came back to just a couple of internal links.

Do you have those internal links since a long time?

[bufferzone]

Orange and others>

Try this link [marketleap.com...]

Great resource for link popularity check

Regards
Kim

[Mike_Mackin]

what I found interesting about the results provided by that link was at the very bottom of the page

www.MP3.com 1,109,230
www.About.com 1,273,527
www.aol.com 1,600,820
www.CNN.com 3,623,918
www.Microsoft.com 12,029,568
www.Yahoo.com 15,976,070
www.Amazon.com 19,132,061

[bufferzone]

Mike_Mackin>> Interestering yes, but not surprising

[caine]

Not to sure i'm convinced if it worked. the poplink prog - just checked a url with a compeititors

And after 9 links in google, its internal site links, whereas mine has no links going to it at all, though listed in ODP, Yahoo, and every other search engine (english) and industry specific engines, related sites, plus 104 pages with over 6000 internal links.

Bizarre, will look into further

[heelisp]

Hi,
I found this at [searchenginewatch.internet.com...]

Some pages from within your site probably link to each other. To eliminate these, use the -url command (see the Checking Your Listings page for more about this command), such as:

link:searchenginewatch.com -url:searchenginewatch.com

This only works at AltaVista.

Hope this helps
Paul

[caine]

I went back, and had a play with the poplink analyzer, dodgy dodgy.

Links which were zero in google, went up to a descent figure, AOL dropped, Comps link pop in AV is about ten times my url, but i hold #1 for about every targetted keyphrase.

I think i won't be using it anymore.

[caine]

heelisp,

just tried that link pop, looks more true, but very limited in scope of the major engines.

Don't forget internal linking. Just one more consideration.

Fast is also link dependant, Inktomi as well