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How to get links when your competitor has 6 times higher amount

Can you deal with that?

         

silverbytes

4:48 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm really depressed. My competitors have 6,000 and 18,000 links compared with my less than 2000 links.

When I check backlinks some 500 link partners are not linking back to me (or moved it's links)
Checking those and recontacting asking the link consumes all my time.
Getting new links same thing and seems like my links doesn't grow much.
I tried using Arelis but anyway still loosing.
The other problem is my website is not very profitable really so I don't think I can pay a third party to handle my links.
If anybody can tell what to do in this situation, that would be very appreciated.

Meike

7:07 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Create good content to make people unable to resist linking to you. What does your competitor offer what you don't offer? What could you offer that your competitor does not?

Event_King

9:58 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



Yep, content is a real winner. I just found out that creating the 'right' content increased my adsense clickthrough.

The main problem many have with this is the theme of their sites, and that it's harder to come up with fresh ideas as the main idea is restricting them from adding extra content.

Say you have a sports site, and it offers news, articles and a forum for fans etc. Now what can be added to make it more interesting? What about a letters page, where vistors/forum members can send in comments or a large tips page. Creating extra content need not be the chore many think it will be, and make it interesting enough, it will be a joy to keep adding to it and see the site improve. Remember that if you add a section at a time it can trigger additional content ideas - and you only really need to have an extra 2 or 3 sections to give a site that extra something!

I've found that people want 'quality' over quantity, and if you offer something that nobody has got, that puts you in such a powerful position.

Think about making your site interesting, it doesn't have to compete with the size of Yahoo to be good - just needs to be unique. I love reading those little books from retailers (hint) - it's just a question of finding those content ideas.

silverbytes

3:41 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So you are dedicated to create content instead trying to get inbound links?
Are your incoming links one way only just because your content is good and unique that people links to you without asking a link back?
Does that work in real world really?

Event_King

4:24 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



Yes, I'm dedicated to content - actually it's information that people are looking for, whether it's surfing info, book info or card playing tips.

People forget what the web is about, and they're concerned with profit rather than 'solving' a visitor's problem - which is wrong. Solve theproblem first, so you impress - then you can do the selling thing.

Event_King

4:41 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



instead trying to get inbound links?
Are your incoming links one way only just because your content is good and unique that people links to you without asking a link back?
Does that work in real world really?

Well, I wouldn't say content replaces inbound links, as they are both equally important factors here, but most of my links are 1 way, and a lot of it has to do with useful content.

Like if I see a nice site, I'll link to it as it's useful for my visitors, that the way you have to think about it. Yes, there are those that try and gain an advantage by not linking back, but they get booted anyway so........

Yep it can work in the real world, and I'd say that some webmasters will link without a return link. I have only experienced this at a small level so far, but useful sites will get more one-ways than other types of site. You'll hear stories of links reaching critical mass etc, figures from those that suggest this have yet to be forthcoming and it's uncertain as to the exact number of links required for critical mass. My theory is that few people know or aren't willing to divulge the info.

I've yet to see this myself and have my doubts, so can only comment on what's happened to me.

Just concentrate on good info, as people demand that.

Meike

6:56 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



So you are dedicated to create content instead trying to get inbound links?

The answer is yes. I started out trying to get links and got a few. I finally stopped spending my time getting inbound links and devoted that time to creating more content. And now have more inbound links than I ever asked for. I don't participate in link exchanges because I don't want to devalue the quality of my site by sending my visitors to useless information.

This is, incidentally, not a method for those out to earn a quick and easy buck. But if you're in it for the long haul, an intense focus on quality content is the only way.

silverbytes

1:53 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does you site grow constantly in pages amount and traffic too that way?
What kind of sites links to you (one way)?
Directories? Competitors? Blogs? Personal pages?

TravelSite

2:46 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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silverbytes,

Use Google to see who is linking to your competitors - then send link requests to all these sites.

Event_King

2:54 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



Does you site grow constantly in pages amount and traffic too that way? What kind of sites links to you (one way)? Directories? Competitors? Blogs? Personal pages?

If you add pages of content a site grows - but don't wildly create a load of pages, the content must be unique! What kind of sites link? hmmmmmm, well, mostly annoying casino sites and sex sites etc, it's pretty silly actually, as they won't get targeted traffic as my theme isn't about sex or gambling.

You'll get a lot of that - link desperation is self-defeating and a waste of time. Haven't had any competitors link to me, maybe as they can't compete with the size or complexity of my site. You have to realise that many sites are 1 man operations and can feel threatened easily when discovering another site in their field that's better, bigger and more useful etc etc (that goes for every niche). The trick is about deciding what your site is going to be and sticking with it - you can't be everything and it would take fortunes of cash to develop such a site.

Whatever you decide to do you'll need a proper plan of action, lot's of cash and pleanty of ideas - ideas being the most important for it's success and survival. People will only link to quality sites and big ones at that, it's tough, it really is.

Too much talk about easy street goes on for my liking, and it's annoying too, one thing is for certain, however this link critical mass is reached, noone is telling, so get used to it and get that idea cap on.

It's the only way...... Uniqueness beats all, sorry I'll rephrase that - kills all!