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Do you have a link monkey?

         

ozni

2:36 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Who is in charge of your link development, do you do it your self or hire a Link monkey.

What instruction have you given to your link monkey?

neuron

3:27 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, so now I'm a monkey?

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, ozni!

kevinpate

4:38 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Green bananas, though not spectacular today, will ripen in time

Bright yellow bananas, though pretty and edible today,
have a short shelf life and may go bad very quickly

:)

ozni

6:33 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For people who didn't understand,

Link Hunter was referred manytimes as a link monkey [webmasterworld.com...]

And back to our topic, who make the link development for you. and what instructions you give him?

Crush

8:01 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What you tell them? Well, after beating your chest and shaking a few keyboards. You tell them to go out into the jungle and hunt. Your responsibility as head primate is to provide them with the tools that have been passed down from your forefathers.

There are many tools to hunt with. email hunters, email senders, backlink crawlers, link page finders. All these will help the junior monkey on his journey into the unknown. Do not get the poor ape to seach manually for relevant sites. This is demoralising and he may leave you rather quickly.

glengara

8:48 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The use of such a demeaning term bodes ill for your linking success, IMO...

Crush

10:08 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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glengara, just a bit of a hoot. And the term has be coined now but to be honest I would not say this to link development team. This is just a bit of webmaster banter behond the scenes, so do not take it like we are demeaning the people who do this task.

The automation we do makes their life easy and that why my link guys stay on longer than one would expect for such a job.

link_monkey

10:43 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)



This has gone on far too much. I'm gonna sue all you guys! Link Monkey is a trademarked term and you guys are all in voilation.

Now leave it alone before I bring my buddy, Link Gorilla in here and we kick some SEO butt!

Crush

10:51 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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which one of you clowns just re-registed as link_monkey?...heh

ooh ooh ooh arggg.. link_monkey where Tarzan?

Essex_boy

6:50 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Bang.

The link monkeys head will look nice on my wall.

incrediBILL

8:19 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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somehow I envision a few people eating termites from a twig dipped into infested desk wood, sitting around a computer looking for link partners and waving bones at the monitor, pounding on keys and jumping up and down....

peewhy

8:26 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Going by the vast bulk of 'link monkey' emails I get on a daily basis. "....I visited your wonderful site and I think it is so fantastic ....."

I don't think any real instructions are given other than.
"hey monkey get me links".

creative craig

8:58 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I personaly like to do all the link building myself. I have out sourced before (to reputable link builders) or used other people in the office but every time the results have come back in, they have been below par.

Plus I enjoy it ;)

jaffstar

11:28 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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A better term is "link robot", a link robot will go out and fetch links based on set of criteria.

The problem with a robot is it does not feel emotion ,and every link is different.

I do have a team fetching links, but , they are only as good as their master.

They are more like my pawns, and I am the king :)

You need a good strategy or you will fail.

grandpa

11:36 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I prefer the term 'link-bum'. Every now and then I'll open an e-mail request and add someone. I might add two or three at once. Let them come to me :)

It seems like more and more I'm getting better quality requests from relevant sites. I guess you could say my days of monkey-ing around are done. I would say it was worth it!

limbo

11:38 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am my own link monkey. Monkey is as Monkey does.. just don't pay me peanuts

peewhy

11:46 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know of penalties for just creating a 'link monkey' page and just sticking all the relevant ones within?

Crush

2:58 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Does anyone know of penalties for just creating a 'link monkey' page and just sticking all the relevant ones within? "

For some reason the rule of thumb is no more than 100 links per page. That was passed on down from link monkey to link monkey but I have no idea why.

peewhy

3:04 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've tested that theory. I've had excellent serps with 200 links on a page (portal listings), but it would be interesting to hear of other successes & failures.

excell

3:49 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hehe - I got a couple of chuckles out of this thread.

On the serious side - link monkeys, link robots, link managers they are all the same to me and they all get a no. I find it amusing to watch the daily batch of 50 or so link exchange emails go by me (all ignored)

I am quite happy when a true link request comes in and more inclinded to reciprocate if I see it as good.

peewhy

4:07 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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...and the genuine, non link monkey, requests really stand out from the spammy type.

Crush

4:09 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"...and the genuine, non link monkey, requests really stand out from the spammy type."

As i do the former can you guys help me make my robots sound more genuine?

What factors would you consider important?

peewhy

4:17 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Imagine this;

A lot of people respond to that request and from the information gleaned, another generation link request letter is born. In less than 24 hours, every 'Link Monkey' feels it is such a good letter that they'll copy it.

what do you get?

Another spammy link request!

You can't win.

Crush

4:24 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hey, my spammy link requests have page rank, are cached, and are indexed by google. That anchor text will help you. So why let the oppotunity pass you by?

peewhy

4:26 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What responses do you achieve from your existing link request mailings?

zgb999

5:19 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"For some reason the rule of thumb is no more than 100 links per page. That was passed on down from link monkey to link monkey but I have no idea why."

As far as I remember the rule came from Google. Googleguy said more about it on this thread:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Crush

5:36 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"What responses do you achieve from your existing link request mailings?"

Enough to keep 5 link monkeys adding all day every day.

excell

5:37 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"hey, my spammy link requests have page rank, are cached, and are indexed by google. That anchor text will help you. So why let the oppotunity pass you by?"

No offense but when faced with a sea of same and having better things to do it will get passed up to the degree where you are totally ignored.

As an example: I have one particular (quite popular) seo send about 40 or so link requests/notifications/etc for different businesses through my e-mail per day.

Frankly, I don't care how well positioned the sites are or how they are going to increase PR etc etc.

It's plain offensive to see these type of e-mails and if you are doing it automagically you gotta understand that one send could mean like 40 receives for one person...as in my case.

peewhy

5:40 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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***"...and the genuine, non link monkey, requests really stand out from the spammy type."

As i do the former can you guys help me make my robots sound more genuine?

What factors would you consider important? "***

I feel you have the answers on that basis!
I hope you feed your link monkies more than peanuts.

Crush

5:57 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Fine for hobby webmasters but if you are in a competitive industry you nedd 3000 backlinks to be #1. The ones who automate surivive.

We have built good tools to identify who is a likely candidate. Not just blanket mailing. That is why I get good responses. If you could not be bothered to look then so be it because what I have is the same as some as the guy that wants to write to you maunally.

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