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although many of them have a 5 year old design, rarely updated content and no awareness or idea on the difficulty new sites face. they seem to think they are above you, simply because they had it easy and started a few years earlier.
I remember doing internet promotion for a pretty large site in 1999. almost every link request was replied to and they actually did link to you.
if you request any kind of assistance from a pr 5+ site these days, they ignore/abuse/mock you. do they forget , it was people like us and generosity that made them the big sites they are today?
i think the web is becoming to commercial. everyone wants something in return for even little things. it was not like that a few years ago and the big sites now, have forgotten how easy it was for them .
From my 7 year knowledge and experience in domains/sites, i think it would be more than 100 times harder to make a large successful site now, than it was in 1999. probably around 50x harder than 2001. and 10x than 2002.
In other words, what would take you a few months to achieve in 2000, will take more than 5 years now. (unless you have a huge budget and want to spend a million on ppc or other online advertising)
...if you request any kind of assistance from a pr 5+ site these days, they ignore/abuse/mock you.
Well, that statement makes me wonder why you are looking at the size of their PR if it doesn't matter to you? But it must matter, if you're taking measure of the bigness of their PR. So in a sense, you are a part of what is wrong, too.
A similar complaint is that everybody is fixated on large PR. Everybody wants a link from the guy with a big PR, but nobody wants to exchange links with someone with zero to little PR.
Well, if PR matters to you, then you only have your head wrapped around one third of the link development job. Two thirds of link development is getting away from you. In fact, I don't even consider PR as part of the equation anymore. My advice is stop bothering the PR5+ websites and take a fresh look at what is around.
...everyone wants something in return for even little things.
Giving something to get something
No offense intended, but it seems you are unaware of how much you are a part of that problem. You want something too. And worse, you want it for nothing. You are talking about how hard it is to make a site a success, but success rarely ever comes in the form of a handout. So why should it be surprising that someone should want something back from you?
Are you a Business or are you a Community Member
What business is there in which you do you not have to pay for promotion? At it's most basic level, link development is promotion. It must be approached as promotion. It is not a community activity. You cannot be a commercial enterprise when it comes to buying advertising, then put on your community hat when you go asking for links. You remain a commercial enterprise. Link partnerships are not an act of community, they are business agreements.
Communities Aren't Free Either
Blogging is a community activity where people freely toss links to each other, but it's not really free. You still have to come up with witty remarks, essays, and observations.
i'm not a part of the problem. i link regardless or pr, and dont care about reciprocal linking.
I am stating the difference these days.
It was very possible to get something for nothing in the past. It is almost impossible now.
The post was about how difficult it is now compared to before
I have several sites where I send people traffic that makes them money - they tell me to take them off. Go figure!
