No high Pageranks to get links from....

how to build pagerank where there is none.

[tolachi]

First let me acknowledge that I understand the current google toolbar isn't necessarily showing the pagerank the old one did. That is, it might not mean so much right now.

That said I am in a fairly niche market where the people who use these widgets aren't exactly early adopters. There just aren't many good sites to even pay to get links from that are relevant.

I'm developing one pure content site to feed traffic and some linkage. What can else can I do to create something from nothing?

Pete

[trillianjedi]

In a niche market, with no other sites around, you have no real competition.

Just get a few inbounds to get in the search engines, build a good site and you'll be number 1 anyway.

Don't quite understand the concern about PR?

TJ

[tolachi]

Sorry, I realized there is a post with the exact same question about halfway down the page.

This one: [webmasterworld.com...]

coconutz posted some good advice and links. I never even noticed the library link before. It will make for some interesting reading.

Page rank. Just some chatter I have heard and the fact that my homepage is grey bared and still has the same rankings it always has had. I'm not really worried about the google bar's stated rank for a page actually.

Niche, it's a relative term I guess. It's big enough to have competitors, I'm just runing out of people to ask for a link, short of branching out to completely unrelated websites.

I think I've decided it would be best to give money in exchange for guidance at this point.

I just noticed: In the upper right hand corner of large.informative.and.famous.site.with.financial.problems.com there is a small block of text, "widget services" which links to company x's site. Comany x ranks in the top 10 for "widget services" which is one of the most competitive keywords out there. Any thoughts on the pros or cons of that strategy?

Done thinking out loud.

[Marcia]

If it's unrelated and it's a site with decent PR it's probably a purchased link.

Sometimes things aren't quite as "niche" and limited as they might seem. There can be other sites that are related in some vague way that might appeal to the same market.

An example that comes to mind is if someone is getting married and shopping for a wedding gown, they'll also need accessories and jewelry. They'll also be going on a honeymoon - so they might need new luggage. Different products, but they're the same target market.

Another could be that if someone is buying swimming pool chemicals retail they're probably a homeowner with a backyard, and they just might need new outdoor furniture for their pool area or some gardening equipment. Different products, same potential market.

A woman who's shopping for kids' clothing might also be in the market for a sweater for her husband - men's clothing wouldn't be all that far off base.

I'm involved with a group where most of them won't exchange links outside of their own "niche" and we're in a discussion about it right now. Most of the "links" pages for that niche are low PR and have too many links per page, they're limiting their possibilities too much by staying so restrictive.

[nakulgoyal]

I go with Marcia. Staying thematic and keeping things in the right stream is important but to a certain level.

It's not always good to buy links. Get links. Maybe PR0. What I would say is forget the PR and get links. YOu never know that PR0 minght be PR8 someday. :-)