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Yeah, Right!

They want links to their 263 sites!

         

kriskd

9:58 am on Oct 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Rec'd what is likely a "canned" e-mail from some place that has 263 sites, mostly for hotels. They tell me they have linked to my site from all of their and would like links back all 263 of their sites! By the way, my site is about cats! At least they put my site in their "Pets" category.

Anyway, I'm not linking back to even one of their sites. If they want to remove my link, that's fine too! Of course, I don't plan to e-mail back, they can take down my link at their convenience if they want to. :)

Kris

rogerd

1:12 pm on Oct 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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263 sites, eh? That's takes a lot of brass... I can't imagine many webmasters, no matter how naive, would invest the time to create that many links to a bunch of networked sites. These guys would be much better off requesting a far smaller number of exchanges (say, 5 or 10) or even starting with a single request. Their success rate would increase and their linkage diversity would be greatly improved. If they found some willing and efficient partners, they could then work for some additional links.

wkitty42

3:16 pm on Oct 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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considering server side includes, its easy for one to edit one file that is included in many domains... i can just see these guys having their groupings in seperate files accessible by all the domains hosted on one server or even pulling the shared content from one shared directory... the hard part is/was creating all those domains ;)

kriskd

10:57 pm on Oct 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good news... I actually got one hit from one of their 263 sites.

Thinking about this further, why don't they ask people like me to link to one site that is a directory of all their cities for which they are selling hotel rooms?

Kris

Wired Suzanne

9:49 am on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Because some people (like me) get stuck with over 100 domains to find links for. Employers of some people (like mine) do not think about SEO. Some (like mine) think in probability terms.
"With so many domains the probability to get #1 in the SE's is much higher than with one site"

(Not when it are all the same sites! All with hotels on it! #@$%$#)

P.S. I'm not the one with 263 sites, but I use a similar linking campaign.

the_nerd

10:53 am on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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@Wired_Suzanne,

"With so many domains the probability to get #1 in the SE's is much higher than with one site"

Whenever they mention they might want to go to a casino - don't let them go. They might bet the farm because they know that much about "probability" - and you could wind up looking for a new job ;)

Wired Suzanne

4:28 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Nerd, ;)

You're right! Lucky that gambling is strictly forbidden where I'm living. Unless you call this business gambling too.

Well, I just would like to recommend anyone to stick with one or two (perhaps 3) domains only. I have over a 100 links to everyone of our sites (more than 100 domains). If all these links would be poining to one domain, it would surely be a PR8 site and ranking much better than now.

Probability.... tsssss

kriskd

12:10 am on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Another follow-up -- I rec'd an e-mail from this hotel place advising me they didn't find links to their 263 sites from my site. They provided the lengthy HTML code to link back to them. Now if my site were even remotely related my might create a special page for it, but c'mon, my site is about cats!

So, I guess they'll be taking my link down shortly! :)

nakulgoyal

11:49 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



There are some webmaster websites also doing the same. But most of all are banned from google to count on back links.

JasonR

8:51 am on Oct 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wired - too funny!

I've been hanging around WW for quite awhile, and have learned a great deal.

I'm actually now -- perish the thought -- a professional SEO.

The bottom line, sad that it may be ( and it is sad ), is that if Google likes the link pages, so do I. It's not very wise to bite the hand that feeds you ( so to speak ).

Not realistically looking at all avenues concerning linking, ranking, and promotion would be a disservice to my clients-- based on my personal prejudice against link systems. There is little room for emotion in mathematics. My preferred method is to out develop the competition. This is not always feasible, however.

In any competitive market, one is wise to determine the weakeness of the competitors. I'm more than willing to exploit a company's unwillingness to develop a link exchange system. In many cases, they can be swept under the SERPS quite rapidly ( smaller niche markets ).

IMHO, linking strategies should be devised in stages. For a small to mid-sized business with a low link popularity rating, a small link exchange program is developed. The links should be very targeted by content and not PR, unless one happens to be in an industry where getting high PR links is easy.

As the PR grows, the strategy must change. I've noticed a direct correlation between PR and search engine "tolerance" for link directories. I broaden the link content accepted, as I am able to create more link pages without fear of PR 0.

When PR reaches the 5 area, the strategy begins to reverse. Less links with a higher PR developed.

When one reaches the 6-7 mark, one can make ones own rules.

For clients that consider link exchange distasteful, I have no problem. They have two options: A nice fat advertising account, or hire my technical writers to build a nice, content rich website that will attract natural links.

When Google decides to throw a switch on a new link filter, I will be celebrating as much as anyone. I'll have a response completed within about 16 hours.

All of that said, not all of my clients require link exchanges. Some have a natural PR ( imagine that ) high enough to where I was able to easily place them for their key terms.

In all cases, these clients have the content to deserve their spots.

- Jason

Josefu

9:09 am on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Great post, Jason, thanks a lot.

Myself I have a small-sized commercial site and am in the 'building up' stage - hopefully after a press (written) campaign it'll be moving up a notch. Thanks for making all that clear : )