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Marketing Guy

3:03 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You know what really annoys me?

Sites requesting link exchanges that want to bury my link into a thrown together almost hidden links section.

You hit their homepage and scoure it for the links section and there it is right at the bottom. Every other main section has navigation at top, side and bottom.

But links are relegated to the bottom with the disclaimer, etc.

Newsflash for all these people! If your links section isn't important enough to warrant a listing with each of the other sections in your site, then I don't want to link to you! :P

If it's so shamefully poor and irrelevant that you want to hide it (or your content is so bad that you want to stop people leaving) then what makes you think your email lectures on SEO are gonna convince me to link to you? Huh?

There are a lot of sites out there need who need to rename their links sections to their "sites I linked to because they linked back and I thought it would help me get millions of visitors". Useful resources? Lol!

Developing good content on your site does not stop at your SEO'd and keyword drenched articles! ;) Your link section is a reflection of your professionalism too.

<end of rant>

Scott :)

mikeD

3:12 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Totally agree with you Marketing_Guy, it's shameful. Plus I've had sites use all sorts of techniques such as making the links page a SSL page so it won't be crawled by Google. Haven't they heard of a no-index robots tag for the page. Don't they realise users like a well referenced links page.

berli

6:17 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Don't they realise users like a well referenced links page.

No kidding. Some of my highest ranked pages are link directories (well organized and on-topic, of course).

Sometimes best practices do pay off.

too much information

7:05 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's also funny to me that the ones that try to keep your link from being crawled are usually the worst about demanding the recip. link. (Even though they may even claim to be a 'directory')

mil2k

7:43 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Your link section is a reflection of your professionalism too.

I know Scott you have pretty high standards but to be frank I don't mind linking to any tom dick and harry as long as it will help me attain higher rankings. My main concern is how to manage outbound links (please bear in mind as an SEO I mainly come into picture 6 months after the site is live and gaining no traffic) from my client site. As long as I properly manage the outbound links properly I don't care much about the relevance of the links to the site content. And many site owners insist on not having outbound links. The sites you mention are more often the end result of the tussle between the site owners and SEO :)

nakulgoyal

9:13 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I go with Marketing Guy! But there are lots of companies selling links and PR. I just got an email from a company selling 750,000 links for 39$.

:-)

That was another crap from the Internet I feel. Not posting the URL as that is against WW TOS.

kriskd

12:40 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Marketing Guy --

You took the words right out of my mouth! I have been contacted by sites just link that! I search their main page and when I finally find their links page, they have a million unorganized links and who knows where mine might end up being placed!

I am much more selective on who I will exchange links with now. I still receive requests from commercial sites wanting to swap links with my personal site. The two latest oddballs were Zippo Lighters and a Web Hosting Service. However, I agreed to it simply because they had a nice links page that wasn't hard to find and filled with a lot of crap.

Whenever I'm adding links to my page, I always scan through my current ones and determine if anything needs to be dumped, descriptions updated, etc. I never want to become one of these messy link sites and therefore trying to keep my links pared down and not let it grow out of control!

Kris

Marketing Guy

5:54 pm on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My theory is that if you are gonna request a link from anyone who you think will link to you, then at least attempt to structure it into a useful resource for your site.

When I created my first site (a few months before finding WW) it was just a links directory for my local area.

I had all sorts of people offering link exchanges, which I happily reciprocated (hell - it was a directory after all - most sites were able to fall into one cat or another).

One site in mind sticks out tho.

They added a link to my site from their links section (an unordered list of links). It was an US DSL company (my directory was UK based).

So I go there and see my link in this list of various directories / technology sites / random other stuff and Im thinking, "really - what value is that for me?".

Although that was prior to any knowledge about Google et al, I still feel such a link holds very little value. The link section is hard to get to and hard to use.

I know Scott you have pretty high standards

Lies all lies! I drink beer with cigarette buts in them, pull the first chick that comes into the bar and update my sites only when I can be bothered! ;)

The sites you mention are more often the end result of the tussle between the site owners and SEO

He he yeh! :)

My own boss is determined to not have outbound links! I pointed out that it would most likely impact the flow of free traffic and he'd have to pay for traffic increases. He seemed OK with that! ;)

Scott

johnnydequino

8:27 pm on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Marketing_Guy and Others - I believe the best way to create a link page is to have it accessible from any page on a website - sort of like a contact us or privacy policy.

I hate directories of link exchanges - make no sense, and there really is no benefit.

Sticky me for a possible link exchange - the URL in my profile is a new site so don't go by that. =)

jd

mil2k

8:34 pm on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Lies all lies! I drink beer with cigarette buts in them, pull the first chick that comes into the bar and update my sites only when I can be bothered!

Oh I was talking about your site and forum. Remember we talked about it some months ago :) I was really impressed with your site and content. Thats what I meant by high standards ;)

I hate directories of link exchanges - make no sense, and there really is no benefit.

I thought the same. But then I was enlightened. Now I absolutely love them :)