Opera 7.60 Preview 3 released

With voice browsing and a slimmed down GUI.

[bryholmsen]

Opera's preview 3 shows a very different UI:

[snapshot.opera.com...]

The GUI is slimmed down and simplified, and all mail UI is disabled until you actually create an account. It works with Gmail, too.

One interesting feature is the start bar which appears when you click in the URL field on the address bar. There's a "Top 10" button there, for instance.

[kodaks]

Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though :)

[sc18]

Hi when I clicked the link [snapshot.opera.com...] it shows changelog page. I am using firefox 1.0 .Any other link is there?

Thanks

[amznVibe]

Heh, don't forget their firefox skin/buttons for Opera
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[Hester]

Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though

What do you mean?

[Hester]

Hi when I clicked the link [snapshot.opera.com...] it shows changelog page. I am using firefox 1.0 .Any other link is there?

Did you not notice the Download link?

[bryholmsen]

Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though :)

No, it's nowhere near the extension mess of Firefox, thankfully ;) Everything fits nicely together in Opera, unlike... Well, certain other browsers.

[bill]

Yes, the extensions on FireFox have been one of the major reasons Opera is still the better product in this space. Problems with installing and uninstalling those extensions has been the source of a lot of problems.

Wasn't Opera working with Mozilla to standardize browser extensions? I can't seem to find the reference now.

[Hester]

Wasn't Opera working with Mozilla to standardize browser extensions?

Why would they do that? Opera doesn't use extensions.

[bachius]

He probably ment plugins...
[opera.com...]

[encyclo]

It's good to see that they are also building Linux/Unix versions at the same time as the Windows versions, rather than developing the products separately:

[snapshot.opera.com...]

One thing I've noticed from the changelogs is the distinct lack of improvements in page rendering, CSS support, etc. All the changes going through appear to be bug fixes and interface improvements. Although Opera's standards support is excellent, it still trails behind Mozilla/Firefox in some areas, and there seems to be little work done in that respect at the moment.

[Hester]

Multiple rendering fixes.

Opera is still ahead of Firefox in some areas when it comes to CSS. Media queries (CSS3), Generated Content (which used to work in Gecko but has been put on hold I believe)...

Each version brings some new CSS improvements. (Perhaps not between versions Preview 2 and 3, but definitely between 7.54 and Preview 3. I noticed some changes and others have too.)

All the changes going through appear to be bug fixes and interface improvements.

What's wrong with that? I'd prefer them to fix as many bugs as possible rather than add new (often unwanted) features.

[encyclo]

I noticed some changes and others have too.

That's a good thing. I'm all for bug fixes and UI improvements, but the changelog gives the impression that this version was just that, with no change in the underlying rendering engine. I'm glad to see that they haven't stopped work in that area.

[Hester]

but the changelog gives the impression that this version was just that, with no change in the underlying rendering engine

The quote I gave about multiple rendering fixes came from the changelog.

[encyclo]

The quote I gave about multiple rendering fixes came from the changelog.

I think that's sufficient proof that speed-reading doesn't work! ;)

[Hester]

I should have made it clearer though.