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Buying a browser [internetnews.com] by Erin Joyce.
Courtesy Dan Yurman [my.opera.com]
var w = window; var d = document; var browserType;
if (w.opera) {
if (w.print && d.childNodes) {
browserType = "Opera7";
} else {
if (w.print) {
browserType = "Opera6";
} else {
browserType = "Opera5orLess";
}
}
They have definitely improved in that area. It never worked with one of the biggest provider of Internet games and did what you described above. Just tried the site in 8 and it works.
I'll try your idea Gorilla. If it works, I owe you a beer. ;)
js 'fibs' depending on which mode (ie, ns, or opera) that the browser is set in.
> java
Is java by Sun itself (the real unfettered deal). If it won't work with that, then you aren't talking about Java.
> loading
I've not run into a site yet that wouldn't load fine with Opera. The best part - turn off the ads by disabling flash ;-) You won't believe what you are NOT missing. (press F12, uncheck enable plugins)
No, the best part of opera is mouse gestures.
Well, on second thought, the best part is still shift-control-click or shift-click.
Seriously, I think the best part is shift-click on form buttons (never retype that bad password again).
Let me rethink this - the best part is the embedded rss feed aggregator.
Hmmm, maybe it is...
[Search Engine 3]
Name=&Yahoo
URL=http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%s
Query=
Key=y
Is post=0
Has endseparator=0
Encoding=utf-8
Search Type=0
Verbtext=17063
Position=-1
Nameid=0
[Search Engine 4]
Name=&Teoma
URL=http://s.teoma.com/search?q=%s&qcat=1&qsrc=0&Search.x=0&Search.y=0
Query=
Key=t
Is post=0
Has endseparator=0
Encoding=utf-8
Search Type=3
Verbtext=17063
Nameid=0
Position=-1
[Search Engine 5]
Name=&MSN
URL=http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0&q=%s
Query=
Key=m
Is post=0
Has endseparator=0
Encoding=iso-8859-1
Search Type=3
Verbtext=17063
Position=-1
Nameid=0
One thing I never could understand about the earlier versions of Opera was why they reduced the default viewable area to about 640x480 by adding using so many hotbars and toolbars. They're making a lot of progress in that area; isn't that skinny little sidebar panel about the only thing turned on by default these days? It's also very handy to have the e-mail client right within the browser window, though I wish it wasn't opening a new tab every whip-stitch. M2 takes some getting used to, but it's pretty nice and, though in my opinion FireFox is better than Opera, M2 is quite a bit farther along than ThunderBird.
I don't like mysteries in my browser as this is very odd, didn't reboot machine, changed no options, games worked last night in other browsers just not Opera, today the games load fine in Opera.
I'll raise my rating to 8.75 - they lose .25 just for being inconsistent :)
Agree. This thing is really well done.
-Impressed
Jennifer
> can't get the newsfeeds into the side panel
You can if you create an email account.
var w=window; var d=document; var browserType;
if (w.opera) {
if (typeof XMLSerializer!= 'undefined') { browserType = "Opera8";}
else if (w.print && d.childNodes) { browserType = "Opera7";}
else if (w.print) { browserType = "Opera6"; }
else { browserType = "Opera5orLess"; }
}
Hope someone finds it useful!
The speech was in no way 'cut up', or robotic. Real human actors have spoken the sounds needed to make words, and somehow Opera is able to make it flow freely like a real conversation. Obviously it isn't going to be perfect (I noticed a few slight problems with certain things), but as a testing tool for making sure your site works for users who need to read out the text, Opera hits the mark beautifully.
Some pictures on some webpages do not load at all (even if I right click on them and click on "reload images"). I think (not 100% sure, though) that same applies to CSS.
Examples: goooooogle images on the bottom of the bage whenever I search for something through opera's interface (it's ok when I go to google.com and then make a search). Here, on webmasterworld, I don't see the "post your comments" button (the one next to "post new topic", on the top right of every thread).
Edit: "ww" logo doesn't work either. Nor do "view member's profile" and "send a sticky".
I didn't have that problem with any previous version (not even with 8 beta), I checked with other browsers (firefox for example) and it looks fine.
I'm using Fedora Core 3, didn't find anything in preferences...
Anyone else encountered this problem?
but as a testing tool for making sure your site works for users who need to read out the text, Opera hits the mark beautifully.
I disagree.
As a quick guide for checking things make sense, its fine. But anyone who needs to have things read, will likely be using a software dedicated to the job, such as Jaws or similar.
In my brief testing, Opera doesnt seem to have any of the features that a real aural browser does, e.g. there is no list of links, you cannot skip from heading to heading, the focus doesnt follow the voice , so you cannot activate links when they are read, and there not even announced as links.
Hav to agree the voice rendering is very nice though.
I'm having little problems with the full version.Some pictures on some webpages do not load at all (even if I right click on them and click on "reload images"). I think (not 100% sure, though) that same applies to CSS.
I'm having the same problem...some images just aren't there :(
I'm having the same problem...some images just aren't there
You could always report this as a bug to Opera: [opera.com...]
Hopefully with future versions Opera can add even more functionality. (I'd like to see a Pause button.)
You can skip between headers on a page - Opera has a key shortcut for that. Not sure if it works while the page is being read out though.
As for the images not loading problem, try upping the cache in the Preferences. The default setting is pathetically low.
you can edit the setup so you just have to say
"opera web master"
and the active list here loads.
off to add my fav sites to shortcuts like this...
User JavaScript. Like Mozilla's User CSS, this enables you to tweak the design of individual sites. So say you have a site that used purple on green lettering that you found awful to read, you can now change the colouring, without affecting all other sites you visit.
A minor point and probably of little consequence, but isnt this feature potentially infringing the site owners copyright by altering what is viewed? I know it matters little in the normal scenarios but, by way of example, it might make it much easier for a competitor to demo their site alongside yours changing the colours on yours to make it look much less appealing. Just one off-the-top-of-my-head example.
Just a thought.
Cheers
Simmo!
Cheers,
Simmo!
Jennifer
Indeed this is true but that one user could still theoretically not have seen what you wanted them to see. So the issue could still arise.
Cheers
Simmo!
Jennifer
