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12:10 pm on Jan 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I've begun using Opera more and more, and I basically love it. Most especially I love how it shares system resources with other programs -- makes having lots of software open at once a much more stable situation.

However, I'm finding some odd things that surprise me, and I'm wondering what's up -- is this just my setup? Two in particular:

1. Images (always GIFs, from what I can tell) sometimes stop rendering, even when the page reports 100%. A click on Reload and the full image is instantly visible.

2. Popup windows that are supposed to be NOT resizable, still ARE resizable.

2:59 pm on Jan 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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1: most often reported by people using some sort of proxy. Not sure. I _never_ get it Tedster. Other people say they get it infrequently like you do. I think the developers are stumped on it.

The only time I see it is with animated gifs when I have animation off.

2: All popups in MDI mode should be resizeable (no other way to do it in mdi). I don't know about SDI mode.

9:31 pm on Jan 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That's a bit disturbing about the popups. I have a few places where I've placed some "extra" document information outside a non-scrollable, non-resizable popup. It's there for people who come in directly from a search engine link instead of opening the popup through javascript on site.

Oh well, it's like the song says, you can't always get what you want.

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Bobrigss let me know that it isn't MDI that is the problem, it is evidently the way Opera is doing the mdi. If you have noticed, there are many differences between standard mdi and the way Opera is doing it.

I know it breaks with standard, but I'm very glad popups are resizable. Also glad that css isn't applied to forms. ;)

4:37 am on Jan 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey Ted!

I use Opera 6 (Windows) quite a bit now. There is a lot to like. My main concern is how Opera renders CSS as I have discovered it is very right on point in many cases.

Little things that had me stumped until I found the answers: Form drop down menus were showing a break after the element. The solution? form {display:inline;}

Lists had unwanted margins on the right side (which caused vertical distortion)According to what I found, Opera IS correct in this rendering, as opposed to IE6 and NS6 - the solution? ol,ul {margin-right:0px;}

I just redid my homepage by eliminating the last of the tables in favor of CSS positioning. It is not a liquid design because of the intended layout.

I have to repeat it... I really like Opera!

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Yes, I like Opera very much as well. It's so intelligently designed and so fast -- I know it speeds up my workflow. My biggest client is now dropping Netscape 4 from their design criteria, but adding Opera 6.

The incomplete image problem I mentioned in the first post seems to have gone away after I checked this box:
Preferences > Window > Avoid Flicker.

But I can't make the problem come back by unchecking the box, so I can't say for sure what's going on.

One thing that I've noticed: I sometimes use javascript at the very end of my HTML to preload big images for future pages, especially informational pop-ups. Opera sometimes delays images on the page and starts the big js downloads before the main stuff is done.

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I've also seen some consistent problems with <td nowrap>. It seems to wrap on breaks within links? Its really annoying because I use this in stretchy tables all the time.
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On the js image load thing: that will depend somewhat on how you have your Network > Connections to server set. Reduce it and increase it to see the effect.