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Two Little Opera Problems

   
1:46 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Running into some odd stuff - just little details, but they bug me.

First, as I mentioned months ago, there are occasions when Opera doesn't display an image, even though it has downloaded it. If I know an image is missing, then it's no problem. But I sometimes wonder what I'm missing.

On my own sites, it's always the same images that give the problem. It seems reporducible, but I cannot figure out what the telltale factor is.

Second, occasionally there is a link that will not change to "visited" colors, no matter what. Always the same link, and again, I can't see any telltale factors.

I had hopes for 6.03, but these still persist. I guess the new version was mostly about the security fix.

1:52 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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NS6 also drops images for no reason and stylesheets (at least on the linux version)

It happens if you are inactive for a while, you click a link and there is no styles and no images! Even happens here on WW

Nick

1:56 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I've noticed the same things on Opera 6.01. I've been trying to figure out the cause too. Cookies, Cache in Opera?
2:06 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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There was an issue with proxy servers up from 5 to about 6.01. As far as I know, that has been resolved.

Anyone have a url where it can be reproduced? I'm wondering if it is a video driver thing instead. I've not seen a missing image in ages...

2:48 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I can't say i have seen this. Though i am now on 6.02, i don't ever remember having problems with images, problems with server side things - yes, some secure websites don't seem to like opera.
3:50 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>yes, some secure websites don't seem to like opera

It's something with certain forms and Opera. I have several admin panels on some cgi scripts that I can only work with in IE not Opera. Same problem with a browser based email account I used to have.

These all have forms and don't get along with Opera.

When placing online orders I usually use IE also.

7:01 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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To deal with the images problem, Brett suggested I try reducing the "maximum connections to a server" setting on Preferences > Network.

It worked - thanks much! A headache of long standing is gone!

7:08 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ya, some servers aren't setup to handle more than 6 simultaneous connections. Most of those handle it transparently and just delay the request until some of the others free up.
7:38 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks! I'll try resetting this. :)
8:53 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I experienced image "loss" here and there with 6.01, less often on 6.02 and now with 6.03 not at all. In fact, 6.03 has performed FLAWLESSLY for me. I am very impressed.
9:15 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Brett suggested I try reducing the "maximum connections to a server" setting on Preferences > Network

Ya, some servers aren't setup to handle more than 6 simultaneous connections.

The Win2KPro version of IIS has a hardcoded limit of 10 connections.

I ran into this problem a lot when testing 4 browsers locally on IIS (MSIE, Mozilla, NS 4.x, and Opera). Now I know why -- my preferences in Opera were set to 8 connections.

It worked - thanks much!

I'd like to add "me too!"

4:45 am on May 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks moonbiter, I didn't know that.

Tedsters second question:

> Second, occasionally there is a link
> that will not change to "visited"
> colors, no matter what.

Is it a cgi form link? Or, the destination page is a secure page? Or the destintion page has "no cache" on it?

I'm not sure the qualifiers there, but I think if the destination page is uncacheable, then opera won't color the link.

Or, the page has visited set in css to the same as a link color? (css overrides user prefs - much to my dismay).

10:22 am on May 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I found the "visited color" problem - this one had nothing to do with Opera.

It's a straight HTML link, that also has onClick= code that launches the linked page as a pop-up for users that have JavaScript turned on.

In this case, there was a typo in the straight link URL, but not in the onClick code. So the link seemed to work, but the HTML link (with the typo) had never been accessed and naturally wasn't in the history.