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Mambo Foundation has been established

     
5:52 pm on Aug 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Miro International today announced the launch of the Mambo Foundation, Inc., an independent non-profit association created to grow, support and promote the multi award-winning MamboTM content management system to its growing open source community, estimated at over five million users worldwide. Mambo continues to be Open Source and licensed under the GNU GPL.

[i-newswire.com...]

12:53 am on Aug 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On the face of it, it sounds like a good move - but in fact, all is far from well:

[newsforge.com...]

The developer team for Mambo, a leading content management system, has left the project over a dispute with Miro, the copyright owner. Seems Miro setup the Mambo Foundation in a much different way than the developers expected (...) The majority, if not all, active community members support the core developers team in their decision and wish to release a first stable version of the new CMS, formerly known as Mambo.

It appears that it is the entire core development team which has left the Mambo project. Luckily Mambo is GPL licensed, so the core development team can simply fork the code and produce a new version under a different name. For end users, there is a way forward with this new version, probably from the developers' new site:

[opensourcematters.org...]

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I got wind of that riff as well but I didn't spend the time to check it's validity. The team over at Drupal posted a thread wishing the Mambo dev team well with their new venture.

The rumor is that this will yield a much more nimble project development track. Less bureaucratic red-tape to deal with.

1:34 am on Aug 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the update. I've just brought a few Mambo sites online, and developer turmoil makes me a bit nervous. With the huge installed base and committed developer cadre, though, it sounds like things will go forward.
7:54 am on Aug 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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With the huge installed base and committed developer cadre, though, it sounds like things will go forward.

hmmm...I'm getting a different impression from all these stories. It sounds like all of the core developers left the project. This doesn't bode well for current Mambo sites. The Mamboserver.com site looks like it's begging for new developers and forum moderators.
Due to the recent departure of the old dev team, the programming team at Miro will continue with the development of Mambo in the interim period. We are actively recruiting for members of the community who would like to contribute as developers and moderators, and all other areas of Mambo. Should you be interested, please email...
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It is a serious problem, and I don't think that it would a good move at the moment to recommend using Mambo for a new site until the situation is further clarified. There are some reassuring factors, though, that means that in the medium to long term the future of the application itself is secure.

The biggest advantage for end users is the GPL license, which effectively protects the source code from being "taken private" (for want of a better expression). Yes, all the core Mambo developers have left the project, which in effect kills the Mambo project unless Miro can find sufficient replacements or are able to support the project entirely with their own programmers. However, as the license permits reuse, the same developers can take the source, change the name to create a fork, and continue development of their fork with no interruption.

For owners of sites currently running Mambo, follow the developers and go with the new project which will come out of the opensourcematters.org site. For anyone considering Mambo, don't go for the current product as listed on the Mambo Server site, as it risks being abandonware due to lack of developer support. Either wait until the new forked project coalesces and releases their first version, wait to see whether Miro can build a new development team, or look for alternatives.

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>>It sounds like all of the core developers left the project

Oddly, that's what made me optimistic. Rather than the team fragmenting in a bunch of directions, it sounds like the developers are sticking together to proceed with the project (under a new name). Starry-eyed optimism, perhaps. :)

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New name is joomla. encyclo's link has some updated information now.
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We were thinking to move our site content over to Mamboserver pretty much on the day The Great Divergence occured. I do hope it'll be as actively developed.
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Glad I saw this thread...
I was just about to start a site using mambo...
4:56 pm on Sept 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It seems unlikely that Mambo will go away, but there's likely to be some confusion in the short term. If you have lots of experience with Mambo, I'm guessing it's probably OK to keep using it for new installs. If I were doing my first install, though, I'd lean toward a package without the developer bifurcation.
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I have one Mambo site online that I switched over to Joomla and am just bringing two more Joomla sites online.

There is not a lot of difference in the two right now. In fact, some Mambo components can be installed on the Joomla platform. From what I have read in the forums most of the more active Mambo developers and now Joomla developers.