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Does anyone else moderate an Orkut community?

How are you finding it?

         

ronin

5:23 pm on Sep 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just out of interest, does anyone else here run a group (or several) on Orkut?

I probably spend an hour or so a week contributing to the group that I run. There are two other regular posters in the group, one or two occasional posters and the other hundred lurk-a-lot.

I probably see three to four referrals a day from the group to my website.

Apart from that, not much concrete benefit so far, but I do enjoy it. Anyone else?

rogerd

5:54 pm on Sep 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Interesting topic, Ronin. For the non-Orkutians here, can you explain a little more about how an Orkut community is set up and works?

Dpeper

5:55 pm on Sep 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes Orkut, is rather intresting, I would love to hear more about it. Also an invite would be great ;)

ronin

8:17 pm on Sep 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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dpeper> I sent you a sticky >;->

Orkut, for those who don't know it, is social networking site (well, business networking as well I suppose) set up as a project by Google employee Orkut Buyukkokten and launched on an invitation-only basis at the beginning of 2004.

Beyond the whole social networking side of things (internal message system, personal profiles, teasers, crush-lists etc.) there is an extensive network of grassroots communities, created by Orkut users and based around special interest topics (=anything imaginable).

It's large enough and varied enough that you can imagine it as a kind of moderated Usenet. Each group has a single moderator - the owner, who established the group - but aside from that it's very similar.

What makes it more up to date than usenet is that posts are published pretty much instantaneously, posts can be edited, you can look at the profile of the poster, contact them by sending them a message etc.

Okay, so it's a cross between a bulletin board and Usenet.

encyclo

8:49 pm on Sep 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've never been invited either, but it sounds like a more freeform kind of forum, where users can create their own categories as well as posts and moderate their own threads.

As it's still a fairly closed society, do you have the same spam/flamebaiting problems as public boards? I would assume the more controlled environment reduces the workload on that side? On the other hand, the more personal involvement compared to the more anonymous approach of public posting must bring it's own challenges.

I'd certainly be interested to hear the feedback on this.

ronin

9:09 pm on Sep 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've never had to deal with a single spam post - which speaks for itself, I think.

The group owner can designate a group anonymous or non-anonymous. If a group is non-anonymous, a member wishing to post has to auto-register with the group before posting. But, evidently, this a lot more painless than the normal forum registering process, because you already have an account on the Orkut system.

mivox

9:17 pm on Sep 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've seen a few spam posts, but they get scolded by the other community members pretty quickly... and there are flamers in any online community. With Orkut, there are such a wide variety of communities and topics available though, the flamers seem to stick to the 'obvious targets' like political discussion groups.

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Just imagine webmasterworld, if any member could start a new forum in their personal area of interest, and anyone who started a forum automatically became the 'moderator' for it.
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rogerd

6:20 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wow, sounds like anarchy! :) Do potential readers find these new forums by searching Orkut? Or do the moderators typically build membership by invitation?

coho75

6:25 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Orkut sounds quite interesting. Though I have never had an invite. Would be interested to learn more either here or through an invite :)

ncw164x

6:28 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You find new communities by searching or if you see any communities while viewing another members profile then just apply to join, some are moderated but most are not.

rogerd

1:33 pm on Sep 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How large and active do these Orkut communities get? Any really big, active ones?

encyclo

1:48 pm on Sep 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've been looking around orkut a bit (cheers ronin!), and it is certainly interesting, but with a few problems. Firstly, unless I'm missing something fundamental, it appears you can't search for communities, only people - so there are several communities covering the exact same subject - for example, there is a "Debian" community and a "Debian GNU/Linux" community, the former with ~4000 members and the latter with ~2000. The "Linux" community has about 19000 members.

Orkut lists about 1.5 million users, with over half from Brazil (so you get a lot of Portugese-language communities), so I'm sure there are a lot of communities out there with larger memberships - especially those which cover less esoteric subjects than Debian! There are several hundred thousand communities listed, but as I said, without a search facility they're difficult to find.

Another stumbling block is the server response-time, which is slow if you're lucky and broken if you're not. I know it's a closed beta, but so is Gmail and the latter doesn't suffer in the same way.

Added: Ok, scrub part of the criticism - you can search for communities, but not from the Search" page, only the "Communities" page.

Snow

8:32 pm on Sep 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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- so there are several communities covering the exact same subject - for example, there is a "Debian" community and a "Debian GNU/Linux" community, the former with ~4000 members and the latter with ~2000. The "Linux" community has about 19000 members.
The duplicate communities is something they really need to sort out soon. It's begining to look very disorganised. I would like to see sub-categories as well. For instance, if you click on the computers & internet category you get the complete list of all communities that fall in this category. Everything that is remotely related to computers & internet is there and English and non-english communities are mixed together in the list (which is sorted by popularity). If you're looking for linux or Brazilian communities you're in luck but if you want webmaster communities in English you won't find them by browsing (unless you're a very patient person and go through the entire list). There could be some really interesting communities in there, but it's just so hard to find them.

Another stumbling block is the server response-time, which is slow if you're lucky and broken if you're not. I know it's a closed beta, but so is Gmail and the latter doesn't suffer in the same way.
It is extremely slow at this time of the day. However, if you login around 8 am - noon GMT, it's not too bad.