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5x54u

3:12 pm on Sep 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have a site that I am adding about two pages a day to and currently the site is completely static. I have developed templates and with CSS it is as fast as I am going to get my workflow. I have decided to make the jump to a CMS.

Can anyone recommend a good CMS, Content Management Solution. I see tons out there but would like some personal experiences from friends here.

Thank you.

m

trillianjedi

4:24 pm on Sep 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Here's a start for you, very relevant thread from a month ago:-

[webmasterworld.com...]

Then you'll find a few more in here (and a couple of useful posts along the way):-

[webmasterworld.com...]

denisdekat came up with a useful mini-list of open-source options here:-

[webmasterworld.com...]

Given that you've already designed your site and have your CSS templates at the ready, I'd personally start with something simple like WordPress : [wordpress.org...] (or any of the more simple open-source CMS's in denisdekat's list) and then customise it.

TJ

Livenomadic

10:17 pm on Sep 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Personally, I used to use mambo, but my site got to big for mambo and it didnt have the features I wanted so I am now changing to articlelive (PHP version) when it is released.

5x54u

10:23 pm on Sep 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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TY TJ

Well...after that and the blues, I will stick to what I am doing. I use Golive and after reading everyone's experience I do not believe it will save me much time.

That's why I love it here - real answers!

M

PS> I just looked at article live. LiveNomandic why does everyone hate ASP? Does PHP do better for SEO

Marcia

10:30 pm on Sep 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Unless the code is modified, the CMS, including WordPress (blog software but has more capabiity) put out a lot of duplicate pages when they go into the archives. You also can't do as much with page titles, meta tags, etc. as with regular pages

For a templated system, one that's custom or *highly* modified would do better for SEO purposes - unless it doesn't matter.

drbrain

11:31 pm on Sep 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I use ZenWeb for my static content publishing needs. Works great with CSS and is highly customizable.

Disclaimer: I'm friends with the developer.

Marcia

12:34 am on Sep 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, I'll check it out. I really need something that's more like working with static content. I can always use other software added on for other functions, but the main thrust will be static pages.

>>Disclaimer: I'm friends with the developer.

The project is at SourceForge, and it is Open Source.

Bio4ce

4:46 am on Sep 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've been using MT and stripping out all the archive links on the page (other than the category archives). Makes it real easy to create new pages quickly.

The downside to MT is that it can be real tricky to do any advanced customization if you are intimidated by techy stuff (which I am).

I did look at Article Manager from interactive tools. It looks like it has some nice features. The templates are full of tables but I'm more of a xhtml/css type guy, so I'll probably stick with MT.

universetoday

5:48 am on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I use Article Manager and I'm really happy with it. I dumped the default templates and built mine up from scratch. If you're a web developer, customizing the templates is no problem.

Disclaimer: I used to work for the company. Maybe that's an anti-disclaimer because still think that Article Manager and interactivetools.com are great.

Marcia

5:52 am on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Article Manager = $269 + paying a programmer to customize

I'm familiar with the company, and have always been impressed with them. But for a hobby type site that isn't expected to bear revenue, or people who aren't programmers, there are different needs. Meantime, after checking all that's out there for being search engine friendly, I'll be hand-rolling the site and just using PHP includes for navigation.

There is a mod for Mambo by one of the core developers that does a URL fix - and Drupal can be adapted more easily with .htaccess, but each page needs attention to avoid the duplicate issue.

Bio4ce

6:57 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What about Textpattern? Anyone have experience with that?

sun818

7:09 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Surely there are other types of scripts available other than blog/news type sites?

5x54u

7:17 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Great question - one factor why I opted away from a CMS. Are there any that produce a look other than a blog/article type look?

willybfriendly

7:29 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Great question - one factor why I opted away from a CMS. Are there any that produce a look other than a blog/article type look?

I have been looking at Contentor, which was mentioned in another WW thread. It has some nifty features, but I am not sure that the limitations are not too great a burden. Still playing around.

Very easy to customize the look and feel though.

WBF

5x54u

7:34 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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WBF - Can you sticky me the URL for Contentor?

bunltd

7:49 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are there any that produce a look other than a blog/article type look?

Yes, I use WebGUI. The overall layout can be customized to anything you want, then you can have different page level layouts allowing you to plug-in varying content types on a page.

It's main content type (they call them wobjects) is an Article, but it can pull in XML or RSS feeds easily, it will also do a message board, event calendar, faq, poll, survey, product listing, etc. All of the content types can be further customized by the use of 'templates' that dictate their look. All of the content types have default templates, you can add your own easily. The auto-generated menus also have the same templating system, so you can easily customize those as well to get the nav scheme you want.

I've got corporate, non-profit orgs, and general informational sites running on it. (it's pretty adaptable)

Hope this helps.

LisaB

willybfriendly

7:50 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google it. It is the #1 result.

WBF

5x54u

8:08 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Great replies, all - Thank You

As I replied to you WBF - I did(duh), TY

Marcia

8:20 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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PHPWebsite looks like a portal - which is exactly what it's for. It's Open Source, developed at a University, and they themselves use it extensively for the sites of a number of their departments. It's the one I've been most impressed with all along for some purposes, and have seen it used beautifully with NO indication of looking like a CMS or blog. It's just a matter of learning how to use .htaccess to get it search engine friendly.

To be honest, if a product is commercial, charging for their offering, it should be search engine friendly right off the shelf rather than having to pay a programmer or techie to make modifications on top of paying for the product.

Otherwise, for those who can afford, the best solution is a custom application by someone who understands search engine friendly, because then it's tailored to the individual needs and ready to roll out from the ground up.