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Mambo has X but no Y, Plone has Y but no X, phpnuke has V, but who the hell needs V!
Ok, I had my vent...
Even a Microsoft Access database can be used to produce pages from a template if you just have a static site.
Thanks.
What's needed is a simple framework which allows templating basic content pages with a menu, and with all the other stuff like comments, forums, shopping carts, polls or whatever available as separate modules - kind of like the approach taken by the Firefox browser project.
I'm currently adapting a very simple wiki script for a CMS, and even there I'm ripping out some features before adding functionality needed for my project.
I completely agree, I want something to handle/organize my content (as in articles), and do it DAMM well. That is it.
I do not need it to be a photogallery that is worse than php gallery, a directory that is worse than in-link, or a forum that is worse than phpbb or vbullitiin. Those items can be handled by other scripts, and handled well.
It would be nice to have them all in one big CMS, but nobody has the time to make all those extra features well, so they end up having all the features ****ty.
I've resisted even looking at MT because of what they did with the licensing.
My content makes money, not my impressive coding. The whole reason I want a CMS so I can concentrate solely on writing (which is what I love to do).
Moveabletype is what I want, simple, functional, stable, static. But I have FAR to many articles to not have unlimited categories.
The way it stands now I'm gonna have to learn php so I can hack and slash Mambo into something like I want, and I am not looking forward to it.
Subcategories: A new category management interface gives you fine-grained control over the organization and display of your posts. You can even easily move a subcategory from one parent category to another.
This release of Movable Type is currently scheduled for release on August 31.
Those could be good, but I need unlimited subcategories, and it doesnt go into detail about if you can have sub-sub-sub categories and such.
If I want to write a new page, identical to another page I already have, I save the old page under a new file name, find&replace any menu items that need to reflect the page being in a different section, delete the copy from the old page and write the copy for the new page.
How exactly does a CMS make that quicker?
When to hand make all your pages (even templated pages) you run into problems of organization and interlinking after a while.
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The entire MAIN section of the site has been made by hand (and MT for the blogs). You can see that it is a complete mess because as they added new documents, sections, categories, domains, sites, etc.. they have to go back into their old documents and redo them with the new changes (whether to the main menu, or related items, and such)
CMS also allows for faster publishing. I can open up my site admin, type in my content and press "ok". No need to manually update the homepage with my new document, or add something to the main menu, or anything... Click and POOF it is up.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 3:17 pm (utc) on Aug. 26, 2004]
Works great for static pages, other than crashing here and there.
As for the complaint that you have to be a programmer- well, these are probably not going to help you folks much. But really, why not just hire a programmer when you need a programming task? A CMS is no trivial piece of software and until that segment matures, it's going to take tweaking.
