Trying to get multiple IP's at the hosting company I use

Am I not making sense? Do I have this wrong?

[HeyJim]

I have a reseller account with a couple of dozen domains sitting in it. The hosting company offers additonal IPs for $2.00 monthly per IP.
So I ask if I can get them in different c classes. They tell me (in effect; can't quote), "huh?"

I write back (several times) and finally I give an example similar to this one:
What I don't want is:
111.222.333.444
111.222.333.445
111.222.333.446
111.222.333.447
What I do want would be something like either:
111.222.333.444
234.456.874.987
832.403.487.029
092.938.038.088
Or even:
111.222.333.444
111.222.837.209
111.222.039.092
111.222.309.398
In response to this email from me, I get a response back something along the lines of - I am not able to understand you, please clarify how are you going to set up a C Class for your 24 sites.

Who's the idiot here? Do I have this all wrong? I'm thinking I really don't understand C class at all.

[Dreamquick]

You might want to try offering a simple explanation of why you want non-contiguous IP addresses to your host (preferably using a "reason" they can't pick holes in).

While I and most of the other members understand your reasoning the person dealing with your emails might not and so a quick (generic) example might help.

Secondly there's the issue of whether *they* are allowed to pick & choose the IP addresses they hand out - it's possible they are forced to assign IP N+1 rather than just an arbitary IP in which case you might well be at the whims of their assignment system & rules.

Bottom line is as always "ask before you buy and then try not to change the specification later on" since there is no such thing as "one size fits all" when it comes to hosting.

- Tony

[HeyJim]

Yes, when I signed on with them I didn't understand C class, etc. Now it's time to grow up another notch.

I did assume that even though they offer dedicated IPs for $2. they could very well be limited to aaa.bbb.ccc.?. That's okay, I'd understand they may have limits but I can't get a straight answer out of them. I obviously need to know that so I can decide whether to grow with them or seek another solution.

I'd assume someone working in support would at least understand my question so suddenly I began doubting: do I have this all wrong? I do feel better now. I had a similar lack of comprehension from them last week so I guess it's time to move on. After these two incidents when I actually knew more then them (!) I'm a little nervous about hosting anything with them.

[Romeo]

Hi HeyJim,

to begin with
111.222.333.444
234.456.874.987
832.403.487.029
092.938.038.088
does not look right, as IP V4 addresses are made of 32 bit expressed in 4 octets, so the highest possible IP address is 255.255.255.255.
So a 11.22.33.44 for the first of your addresses would be a better example.

A provider has got some chunks of IP addresses for his use: a small provider may have just one or two small ranges of addresses, a large provider may have more and larger ranges of addresses. With these addresses, the provider builds up his interior networking structures by connecting some routers and defining local subnets, and then connecting servers to local subnets.

Different networks (subnets) are tied together by routers routing from one subnet to another.
[There are no class "C" nets anymore, this is historic stuff ... you probably mean a 11.22.33.0/24 subnet with addresses in the 11.22.33.0 ... 11.22.33.255 range].

If you have your reseller account on one server hosting several domains on that server, in a standard straight-forward setup the provider can only assign another address out of the local subnet pool (= same segment on this one side of the router) to the same machine, but cannot assign IP addresses belonging to other subnets, except he would plug in another network interface to the server and connect it into another subnet (if it is a large provider with his addres space broken up in several different subnets). A theoretical approach to route each single addresses of the provider's address space differently would be a configuration nightmare both on the providers network side (routers, switches) as well as on the server side.

So I fear, if you request additional addresses, you will get them out of the 11.22.33.x local subnet pool.
If it is that important to you, the only approach I see is to get additional accounts on other servers connected to other subnets.

Regards,
R.

[HeyJim]

Thanks, Romeo.
The IP examples I posted weren't supposed to be based in reality. I just hit keys at random in establishing a non-pattern.

The additional information you added though is great. That's what I'm picking up at random from bits and pieces of feedback from a variety of hosting companies.

Thankfully, I have a Plan B as well as a Plan C that will work nearly as well AND be technologically possible.