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Liane

4:14 am on Jul 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In comparison to many WebMasterWorld members, my site is quite small with only 116 pages. I keep reading about sites with thousands of pages and am always amazed by these numbers!

Recently, I have had some time on my hands and am litterally killing myself (well maybe not literally) ... but I am completely exhausted trying to do my best to add valuable "photo" and "editorial" content to my site.

I have been spending 10 to 12 hours a day (for several weeks) trying to produce a photo gallery of my tiny part of the world. So far, nobody else has done this and I am already finding my efforts to be of value as increased traffic is being realized.

However ... I have to question how realistic it is to produce one page per day as Brett and others have previously recommended? One page every three or four days is my norm and that is going full tilt!

Do the majority of members find you are adding content for content value from which your clients will benifit ... every single day ... or do you add content strictly for keyword and traffic value?

If for the latter ... does it pay off for you. Am I waisting my time and energy doing this photo gallery, which is an enormous ... and I'm talking, "elephant sized" ... pain in the rear?

Is there an easier way to add pages to a subject which I have already virtually exhausted ... or is a photo gallery the way to go?

I have a travel site and am very curious how others approach this sort of thing. Man ... I've got to tell you that photo galleries (for someone who has no training in photography) are really tough! I am my own worst critic and tend to throw out more than half of the photos I take.

It makes it tough when you live in a place with more than 60 islands and cays. The cost in time and travel is horrendous! The mistakes and just plain lousy photography on my part make it twice as frustrating.

You considered comments and thoughts are appreciated. :)

nobody

8:22 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not sure if you're using a script generated photo gallery / CMS or not?

If not - that will save you lots of time, and let you concentrate solely on the writing.

Teshka

8:26 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is there an easier way to add pages to a subject which I have already virtually exhausted ... or is a photo gallery the way to go?

If you haven't already, sign up for Google News alerts for your keywords. I find the best way to continue to get new ideas is to read, read, and read. Having articles delivered to your mailbox every day makes that easy.

Read all the books you can find on your topic as well. Travel, history of your area, politics in your area, types of food grown in your area, whatever. Again, mucho reading really helps. Show me a writer, and I'll show you someone with more books than can fit on their shelves.

Liane

10:20 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Once again, several good suggestions and much to mull over here.

Many thanks to all! :)

rogerd

12:56 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Liane, I think the advice about the photo gallery is good, and let me make a similar recommendation about the written content. I've got some sites that use blog software to manage/add content (either whole site or specific area of the site), and a lot of the writing "inhibition" goes away when you can open a new article window, write your article, and just click "publish". The software takes all the overhead out of writing - no HTML, no modifying pages to link to the new content, no FTP... just write & click. :)

On one site, I can write a short, one-page article in twenty minutes or so. I'll take one or more news items, examine their implication for my audience, and write it up in one pass. I won't be mistaken for John Updike, but I'm generating new content and providing my visitors with timely and relevant information.

Start thinking like a newspaper reporter on deadline and don't try to be an essayist or novelist (unless you are doing it for the pure joy of writing). You'll be surprised at how quickly you can write decent copy.

pageoneresults

2:02 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Liane, have you given much thought to taking those one page areas you are adding and breaking them down. I mean, with the type of research and data collection you are doing, I would be thinking in terms of adding sections, not pages.

The Photo Gallery option is really mandatory in your situation. This phrase has been beaten to death but it applies...

A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words

In your case, you need to develop those thousand words since the search engine spiders don't get a visual. ;)

I would look at all of that existing content you have and start thinking about breaking it down. If I had a 100 pictures of a particular area, I'd guess that I could generate at least 10 categories and 10 pages for each category.

Look at your site like it is family. You have mom at the root level and then you have all of the children below her. The children will spawn their children (grandchildren) and so on and so forth.

By the time you are done organizing, you'll have an an entire family tree to work with.

creative craig

2:25 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I add content when ever I can to my sites. This weekend was a real pain though, five or six times I sat in front of my laptop - brought up my site looked at where I was going to add the content decided on the writing style etc... I had already done the research during the week and knew exactly what I was going to write... but when it came down to it I couldnt find the words :(

Ended up playing Solitaire, completed it three times in a row.

I managed to write two articles and update the news section in the end. I update the news section at least three times a week and add a new page every other day, the new page could be an article an interview or just views on a subject.

pageoneresults

2:32 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The new page could be an article an interview or just views on a subject.

I usually find that many one page articles can easily be broken down into additional pages. Within articles there may be references to additional information that would naturally spawn a related page.

Also, many articles I've seen are very lengthy. Those articles should be broken down into multiple pages. I'd also suggest using the link rel tag to interlink the multiple pages within a single article.

<link rel="prev" href="http://www.example.com/articles/page2.asp">
<link rel="next" href="http://www.example.com/articles/page4.asp">
<link rel="start" href="http://www.example.com/articles/page1.asp" title="Title of Original Article">

creative craig

2:48 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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All ready on this P1R, I am putting in related artilces over the next few weeks.

Liane

2:56 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well I have already been convinced to make smaller sections and more pages per island. I have at least 200 photos of this particular island, 100 of which are likely quite usable.

I will spend more time writing about each place and local characters ... there are lots of characters on this particular island, so that should be easy enough.

I don't know anything about blogs or photo gallery software. Everything is being done manually. I download my camera, pick the best photo of a given subject, size it, stick it on the page and then write something about it.

As many of you know, I am not a professional webmaster and I'm lucky that I am able to create pages which actually work! (Thanks again Dave)

I do however know what sells and I drop in from time to time on the online chat rooms to see what people are tsaying about the islands and what they want to do and see while they are here.

My site does very well and I often overhear people in local bars or restaurants (who don't know me) that they found this or that on that "great site" ... and then they name my site. It makes you feel pretty good to know you are providing useful information.

I now have several concepts rolling around in my head on ways to improve the photo gallery from my initial plans.

I don't see how it will actually save me any time, in fact it will likely take more time ... but I can already see the future benefits, so I will stick with it. I'm just going to have to pace myself, because I can't keep up this pace for an extended period of time! (Getting old ya know!) :)

Anyway, thaks again for all the great advise. I will certainly read and reread this thread several times before deciding on the ultimate format.

conroy

9:29 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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All depends on your definition of 'exploit' really. Nike doesn't think it's 'exploiting' the people who make shoes for 15 cents a day. After all, they'll take the money and make the shoes.

Actually it is quite different. The factory workers don't have any choice - there is the factory in town and that is where they work if they want any money for the most part.

Outsourcing to people in America through elance etc. who have a vast choice of 1) jobs in their locale 2) jobs available online 3) the ability to go to school or learn something new to change their job - are in nowhere near the same situation. They are also not working in poor conditions, and certainly not for 14 hours a day at age 10.
It doesn't even compare.

Red_Eagle

9:55 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My recommendation is write and build photo galleries as long as you feel that you can produce quality work. You don't have to hire someone to write every article on your site, perhaps just an additional 3 pages a day will help. I don't know how large your market is or how much money you are making. Just be sure that you are doing what you do best; pay someone else to do the rest.

Whoa

12:33 pm on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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$15 per article isn't necessarily exploitive. In Bangladesh, the average person earns $120 per year, or at least they did when I visited there a while back. Write ten articles and they are ahead of the game for the year. If you think you can't find good writers all over the world, you are mistaken.

Bottomline - exploitation is in the eye of the beholder.

Harry

12:55 pm on Jul 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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To answer Liane's first question, I have more than enough material to post more than one article every day on one of my sites. In fact, the real issue for me is lack of time to update! I have articles pilling up.

ritalia

8:57 am on Aug 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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whoa i wanted to know how i can find those article writers i am very pressed with time and need articles about the theme of my site can you help?

Pibs

7:22 am on Aug 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'll sticky ya :o)

P.

coho75

11:02 am on Aug 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Can you sticky me too? Thanks

chrisnrae

11:35 am on Aug 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't add content every single day because I don't have the discipline to make myself write something every day.

However, I go on a binge every once in a while and write 6 or 8 articles in a day. These are original articles, hardly ever "keyword driven" though they are highly on topic for the sites.

I know several of the industries my sites are in very well now, so an article takes maybe an hour to do. Its not datafeed or auto gen and this content has had the site recognized by authorities within the industry several times now.

That said, I outsource whenever I can now. Problem is that I'm a perfectionist, which doesn't mix well with outsourcing - but I'm learning to release the control grip of death a teeny bit more every month ;).

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