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Learning how to build my own website

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sadelb

1:35 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i recently bought a website name and a host. i have a great idea for a website , but i have minimal html knowledge. i was wondering if anybody could lead me somewhere (website), where i can learn more aspects in this field. a great website tutorial on working with html will be a great help.
Thanks

hannamyluv

2:17 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I prefer htmlgoodies for a good really, really basic HTML primer.

Birdman

2:25 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld!

HTML Tutorials [google.com]

There are some very good ones on that page. It wouldn't hurt to read a few of them because it'll probably make more sense after it's explained by different authors.

Have fun with it, I know i did(and still do!).

Regards,
Birdman

sadelb

4:22 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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thanks guys..never been on a message board so helpful... will definitely check out those tutorials before I start.

sadelb

4:43 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So this is the thing. I want to learn how to make my own website but I would really like to get this thing up now. I was looking into buying a template but I dont know if that is the right thing to do. Would I be able to customize each page of the template so the site would look professional? Is buying a template the right thing to do or should I go about it another way? I guess the thing that is bothering me the most is I really have no idea where to start.

PhraSEOlogy

5:43 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You already have the GOOD advice (see above posts).

Dont bother with templates - learn what you need to get the site going and the rest will follow...

esllou

8:39 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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my two cents....

do it the hard way. That way, you will know how to fix the problems under the hood when it goes wrong.

Spend a month actually learning how to do it yourself. You will thank yourself for it later.

And while we're at it...steer clear of wysiwyg html editors too for the same reason given above. Use something like NoteTab to make your pages.

grandpa

8:53 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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do it the hard way.

Posh! Nothing hard about putting a page on the web.

Start with something like this:

<html>
<body>
Type whatever you want right here.
</body>
</html>

Save it as HelloWorld.html and put it on your site. Then look at with your browser;
http://www.yoursite.com/HelloWorld.html

You've made a web page. The rest is fun just waiting to be had, nothing hard about it all.

robotsdobetter

9:21 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You've made a web page. The rest is fun just waiting to be had, nothing hard about it all.

I wish it was as easy as you make it out to be! :)

I suggest you use your site for now to mess around with to get your feet wet, than move on to really making sites. It's not easy as it may seem, it's a lot of work and you got to put time in it and have it come to you. First you really need to learn HTML, than move on to SEO, than design, than php and so on, but don't think about all that just take it step by step.

It may have been best to start with free web hosting to mess around with different things.

creative craig

9:30 am on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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W3Schools is a must as well, simple and easy to understand tutorials.

mslina2002

4:38 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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sadelb,

What's the hurry? Nothing that looks like good quality work will be done in a hurry. You know what they say about Rome...

If you are looking to start a business up and going, then maybe you can't wait to get the first $ coming in, but then you need a professional website to be successful - so hire a designer if you can't wait to get your biz going. But as someone else said, it is more beneficial to learn everything the right way so you can fix things when you need to. Believe me I went through this. I used a store brought software and set up my site myself but when I need to fix things, I wish I knew the basics....

If you are looking to make this a career, you've gotten the advice of many in this field already. It takes time and experience to gain the knowledge and expertise in any field you choose.

Good luck,

Lina

topr8

4:51 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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templates are fine, you can buy good ones for not a lot of money, i think they could be a good way to start a basic website. ... but remember we don't drop url's here so no recommendations for where to get them will be forthcoming.

but check out the tutorials mentioned above that way you will learn how to make the changes that you need.

then my advice would be to buy an old version of dreamweaver on ebay or at a second hand computer store, probably version 2 or 3 which is powerful and so much easier to use than the new version (6 - although not numbered like that any more) - trust me on this one the extra functionality of later versions of dreamweaver are best used by someone who really knows what they are doing they are not suitable for a beginner.

MatthewHSE

8:44 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So this is the thing. I want to learn how to make my own website but I would really like to get this thing up now.

Is this a business site, or something more like a personal or hobby site? If it's just something that you, family and maybe a few friends will visit at first, just throw up something simple to start with, like "Grandpa" suggested. (You'll also want to learn how to create links, if you need/want more than a single page.)

There's nothing difficult about creating a webpage. Start easy, read a lot here, and learn as you go. I think you'll find that many people here started that way. I learned most of my HTML knowledge just by reading other sites' source code. The key is to not expect to become an expert overnight.

For actual advice, I suggest (as I believe others already have) a quick visit to www.w3schools.com. Check out their HTML tutorials, but don't worry about learning or memorizing all those tags they list. Start with the basics:

<html>
<head>
<title>
<body>
<div>
<h1> (and <h2>, <h3>, etc.)
<p>
<a>
... and the corresponding end-tags.

After awhile, start delving into some of the other tags. As soon as you're comfortable writing HTML markup, try some site-searches here about "semantic markup" and "CSS." Take time to learn how to do things right; take it from one who knows, writing spaghetti code to begin with can cause a lot of headaches later. Write clean pages, close your tags, use consistent indents, etc.

First thing you should get is a good text editor. I suggest EditPad, but others work pretty well too. Just don't use Windows NotePad.

Next, you'll need an FTP program. I suggest FileZilla because it's free and open-source, but maybe you'll find another you like better.

Then, grab a copy of the Mozilla FireFox browser for previewing purposes. (Lots of reasons for this; but it might be too much to explain just now.)

Once you have a text editor and the FTP program, fire up the text editor and start writing a page. Use w3schools.com for reference as much as you need to. Don't worry about formatting or graphics or anything fancy so far; just make a nice informational page of two or three paragraphs. When you've finished the page, open it up in Mozilla FireFox. Voila, there you have it!

Again, there's really nothing to creating simple webpages. Just start slow, and you'll catch on before you know it!

And, WebmasterWorld is the best place you could be to ask questions if you get stuck! ;)

grandpa

1:39 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I really didn't mean to be as flippant as my previous message might appear. And BTW, sadelb, a belated Welcome.

Back in Sept 2003, what I knew about a website consisted of pretty much everything I posted in the previous message. Last week I started an ambitious project to provide order and shipment tracking to my customers. How did I go from A to Z in such a short time? By reading a lot of messages here at WW, asking a few questions, a little trial and error, some copy and paste, and a few more things that I'm not remembering right now.

The point I was trying to make (and I think I did) was that the business of running a web site, while overwhelming for someone new, is not as hard as it might seem. It's already been said very well... start with the basics, then progress naturally thru those things that become relevant. And, of course, keep your dial set to WW - there is a wealth of information here!

Best of Luck.

brucec

2:59 pm on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I agree, W3Schools is great. The only problem with W3Schools is that it really does not get that technical and I find myself buying a book anyway. LOL

MatthewHSE

3:57 pm on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I find w3schools most useful for reference (though I rarely need them anymore). I learned HTML just by "experimenting" with different tags, and so all I really needed was a list of the tags available for use.

Kewe

12:49 pm on May 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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w3schools is very good.

To built a simple website is not so difficult as the most people think.

But running a business online is the second step.
You need to know how Search Engines working.
And things like that.

Because if you buy a template from a designer. Than that seems to be good. But after a time you get problems with your pages and you must contact the designer again, he knows you're in big trouble because you're trying to run a business, and he asks a lot of money for very simple things. So...

My advice: Take you're time and learn it the hard way. Like most of us did.

Essex_boy

2:04 pm on May 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I learnt by buy several books from beginner to advanced and stayed in one weekend (no mates your see).

What I found was that by the time I was through the first book the rest came very easily.

Its not hard if you really want to learn.

The hardest part I found was finding an editor that I could use.

Two books I would recommend are HTML complete reference (best book ive ever bought on html) and web design comlpete reference.

Learn how to code by hand rather cheat wysiwyg editors.

mann

4:16 pm on May 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I Agree with Essex_boy,

If you write code your self with help of good books, in feature when there is need for some changes in your site you can do it your self & also you can add every thing what you think right for your site/business.

And HTML is not a hard to learn.

Best Wishesh.

sadelb

4:37 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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wow... thanks guys. ive decided to start from scratch. I usually catch on quick so we'll see.. Hopefully everyone here will see my improvements. Anyways I plan on starting by reading everything on w3schools. Mathew, your post was a great help as well. Oh yeah, why shouldn't I use windows notepad. Seems like nobody really likes to use that. Well I plan on starting on this very soon. Wanna learn the basics before I will go into anything business wise.

MatthewHSE

1:26 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Windows Notepad has several problems that make it difficult to use for web purposes. It tries to save every file with a .txt extension, which requires the "double-quote workaround" to save anything else. It has a hard time reading many kinds of non .txt files. It also doesn't have many of the conveniences of other more robust text editors, such as syntax highlighting, auto-indent, block indent, and other features that make the job quicker and easier. Most other text editors these days allow for multiple files to be open at once through a tabbed interface, which Notepad doesn't support. Also, the search and replace functions of other editors are far better.

If you're going to be developing a personal (non-business) site, you can use EditPad Lite for free. If you're going to be developing a site that you intend to make money with, the $40 or so you'll spend for a good text editor is the best initial investment you could make.

The web developer's text editor is like the cowboy's horse in the Old West. You want a good one, because you'll depend on it a lot.